Target not working???

David Burgun dburgun at
Mon Mar 27 12:21:13 EST 2006

Hi Rob,

On 27 Mar 2006, at 17:30, Rob Cozens wrote:

> Dear Dave,
>> The idea is that when a Client Stack does a "start using" I want  
>> to scan all the scripts in the stack and if there is a handler  
>> called "ISM_InitializeObject", call it and when doing a "stop  
>> using" I want to call "ISM_FinializeObject".
>> In order to do this I need to know the stack that invoked the the  
>> libraryStack and releaseStack handlers.
> Suppose instead of (my supposition):
> 	start using stack "ISM_Library.rev"
> 	ISM_InitializeObject -- or is this in the library's libraryStack  
> handler?
> The Client Stack did:
> 	start using stack "ISM_Library.rev"
> 	send "ISM_InitializeOject" to this stack
> In ISM_Library--
> 	on ISM_InitializeObject
> 		put the long name of the target into callingStack

The ISM_InitializeObject handler will be in the Client Stack, but not  
just in the Stack Script, in *any* or *all* object(s) in the stack,  
e.g. in the Stack, Card(s), Group(s) or Control(s). I want to loop  
thru all objects in the stack and if there is an ISM_InitializeObject  
handler defined in the script of the object, call it. The same for  

I had just about settled on doing this (Mark Smith came up with this  
and I think it's just wonderful!):

in a client stack, for example

on openStack
   put the long name of me into myName
   send "libStackregister myName" to stack "/Users/Dave/Desktop/ 
   pass openStack
end openStack

on closeStack
   put the long name of me into myName
   send "libStackDeregister myName" to stack "/Users/Dave/Desktop/ 
   pass closeStack
in the libStack

and in the libStack

on libStackRegister tClient
   set the clients of me to the clients of me & cr & tClient
   start using me
end libStackRegister

on libStackDeregister tClient
   put the clients of me into cList
   get lineOffset(tClient,cList)
   if it > 0 then delete line it of cList
   set the clients of me to cList
   if the clients of me is empty then stop using me
end libStackDregister

Which does what I want nicely!
> Dave, I'd like to make an observation here without having gotten  
> into the details of what you are trying to do:
> Some time ago on this list a new RR developer coming from a  
> background in C began a discussion about how difficult it was for  
> him to deal with the concept of simply placing a message in the  
> message chain
> 	ISM_InitializeObject
> without specific instructions where, or in how many objects, it  
> will trigger some action
> 	send "ISM_InitializeObject" to someControl
> The former is truly the essence of XTalk syntax, and much of the  
> power available to RR developers can only be invoked by  
> understanding & utilizing the message passing hierarchy.
> No offense, but unless you feel you totally understand how messages  
> can travel & be sent, and where & how handlers can be inserted/ 
> removed from the message path, you might want to look into the  
> subject further.  I'm not saying your approach won't work...just IMF 
> (oolesh)O it leads you on a path away from the most efficient use  
> of Transcript.

Given the above description of what I am trying to do, I'm not sure I  
understand what you mean!?!?

All I want to do is to call a handler if it exists in a script. I've  
read up on the message path etc. but not sure how it applies in this  
case. Could you elaborate?

Many Thanks
All the Best

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