OT: Looking for a cheap web hosting ISP

[Andre Garzia]

On Oct 20, 2005, at 3:49 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> Dan Shafer wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I think it's the same problem, Andre.
>>
>
> I currenlty use an ISP that maintains a server farm preconfigured  
> specifically for Rev CGI.  So while I'll stay there for now, this  
> does raise a MUCH bigger question for those of us looking to sell  
> server-side solutions:
>
> Can Rev be compiled in such a way that it doesn't need the GUI libs  
> while running as a CGI?
>

Richard,

the problem I quoted is not related to the GUI libraries but related  
to the standard C library... If you run 'ldd mc' you'll see what  
libraries the metacard engine is linked to, for example

-jailshell-2.05b$ ldd mc
         linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
         libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00341000)
         libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4cba8000)
         libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4cc72000)
         libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x00347000)
         libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x00223000)
         /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x0020a000)


There you see libc.so.6... the problem in Dans webhost is a wrong  
version of libC, if he uses ldd then search for the file, he'll not  
find it... the server is using an older version of libC, he is  
probably using GLIB2.2 and needs 2.3...

If you execute libc.so.6 you receive further information like:

-jailshell-2.05b$ /lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.3, by Roland McGrath et al.
Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled by GNU CC version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-7).
Compiled on a Linux 2.4.20 system on 2004-10-28.
Available extensions:
         GNU libio by Per Bothner
         crypt add-on version 2.1 by Michael Glad and others
         linuxthreads-0.10 by Xavier Leroy
         The C stubs add-on version 2.1.2.
         BIND-8.2.3-T5B
         NIS(YP)/NIS+ NSS modules 0.19 by Thorsten Kukuk
         Glibc-2.0 compatibility add-on by Cristian Gafton
         GNU Libidn by Simon Josefsson
         libthread_db work sponsored by Alpha Processor Inc
Thread-local storage support included.
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.


I do think he's running 2.2 or older and for that reason cannot run  
rev... (will run older rev versions though)

cheers
andre





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>> Dan
>> On Oct 19, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>>
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> if it still the same problem that I saw when I was there during   
>>> RevConWest is a old version of libC (GLIBC), Rev is linked to a  
>>> new  one, it's hard to upgrade libc... I never tried, too spooky  
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> andre
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2005, at 1:49 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are willing to run Rev CGI but so far we have been unable  
>>>> to  do so. I haven't put any time into this but they put  
>>>> literally no  restrictions on CGIs because each domain has its  
>>>> own set of CGI  stuff.
>>>>
>>>> I think there's a missing C library of some sort that stands   
>>>> between me and Rev CGI on Dreamhost but if I needed it I imagine  
>>>> I  could get that fixed.
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 19, 2005, at 7:15 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dan Shafer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You cannot, in my opinion (backed by way too much research  
>>>>>> time)  do  better than DreamHost (http://www.dreamhost.com).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do they support Rev CGI?
>>>>>
>
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