This is what REALLY SUCKS about RunRev! - was Menubar Help

David Burgun dburgun at dsl.pipex.com
Fri Nov 25 05:59:23 EST 2005


>It's entirely possible to have a group that is not on any card. To 
>do this, simply create a new stack, add a button, group the button, 
>and type this in the message box:
>
>remove group 1 from this card
>
>It's a limitation in the app browser, certainly, that the group in 
>question won't show up in the stack. It shouldn't show up under the 
>card, because it's not on the card.

In this case, if it's not in the card, then surely it's not in the 
stack and should not be available for "Placing" or whatver.
>
>I'm not sure I'm following what you're describing after that part, 
>but it sounds like you placed the group, which would make it show up 
>in the app browser, allowing you to delete it.

Yes.

>Again, I'm not sure I'm following, but it sounds like getting rid of 
>this extraneous group fixed your menu bar problems. If so, great.

Yes.

>So, there is definitely a limitation in the app browser, but not a 
>bug. It sounds like a useful feature request to backgrounds that 
>aren't in any card under the stack.

No. it's a bug in RunRev. The only way a group could be created like 
that, is in a stack that exists in memory but not as a file. This is 
possible - once! But during the course of tracking this problem down 
I quit RunRev, restarted the machine and re-loaded RunRev. The Group 
was part of the stack where the error occured. When I created another 
stack the problem wasn't present, yet the Group in question was still 
in the Place Groups Sub-Menu. Besides all this I really don't think a 
Group can exist (or at least be accessible by RunRev), unless it is 
in a stack, and all stacks have at least one card, and they should 
appear in the App Browser anyway.

>How the group got there in the first place remains a question for 
>investigation. You can certainly submit it as a bug. If it's not 
>reproducible it'll be difficult to confirm, and harder to fix 
>(assuming it is in fact a bug).

Yes, It's a Bug - Shock Horror! There are loads of em in RunRev - Get 
used to it and stop being in denial!

Take Care and All the Best
Dave

>gc
>
>On Nov 24, 2005, at 3:27 PM, David Burgun wrote:
>
>>There was a Group in the Place Groups Sub-Menu that was not listed 
>>in any stack/card in the apps browser. When selected it placed a 
>>BLOB in the stack window that could not be selected, however, when 
>>selected from the apps browser window, it could be deleted. Once 
>>this was done it worked.
>>
>>How can this not be a bug in RunRev?
>
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