Launching RR from a web page

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

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I have seen info about an X windows server which is written completely 
in Java.  You could probably use that in a web browser to connect to a 
UNIX (Linux) version of a Rev standalone somewhere (correction: the 
UNIX version of a Rev standalone would connect to the Java-based X 
server, so yes you would need to make some arrangements for tunneling 
through firewalls, etc; I don't know enough about that particular X 
server to know if that is supported internally or not).

Maybe you could rig something with that.

BTW, this is another reason to keep the UNIX engines around: the 
"network-transparent" X windows system...


You can do something similar with Squeak, I believe, but of course that 
won't really help you to run a Rev app ;-)


On Mar 24, 2005, at 10:33 AM, Gordon Tillman wrote:

> Howdy Len,
>
> This is a very interesting problem, one that I would like to be able 
> to implement as well.
>
> On Mar 24, 2005, at 08:40, Len Morgan wrote:
>
>> There was a thread about 3 years ago about having a RR that ran 
>> within the browser and I'm wondering if anything came of that?  The 
>> reason I ask is I have a very good chance of getting a big 
>> programming contract but one of the customer's top requirements is 
>> that it be web based.  He wants nothing to be installed on the 
>> workstations.
>>
>> While I could send DHTML, I think we all agree that RR would give a 
>> much better experience to the end user and frankly, would be much 
>> easier on me.  So, is there some way to launch a stand-alone from a 
>> web page?  I know I can "start using" a stack from a URL so I'd only 
>> need a stand-alone to get the process going.  I think his concerns 
>> are:
>>
>> 1) The "java version problem."  A lot of his users have their own 
>> programs (by the way, we're talking about 500 connected users) that 
>> use one version of java or another and if they upgrade it to be able 
>> to use my code, it will break the applications they already have (by 
>> the way, I have no intention of doing this in java - I'd rather loose 
>> the contract).
>> 2) If changes need to be made, he doesn't want to have to go to 500 
>> machines and install something.
>>
>> With my own stand-alone, I wouldn't have to worry about versioning 
>> problems since I would know when it changed.  I could also check for 
>> a new version of the stand-alone every time I start it up and get the 
>> new version.  Since my stand-alone would really do nothing more than 
>> download a stack (with the REAL program on it), I doubt that I would 
>> need to change it that often (the stacks on the other hand are a 
>> different matter but since I can refer to a URL, he'd be ok with 
>> that.  It's just that I'm not sure how to get the stand-alone on the 
>> user machine without looking like I'm installing something.
>
> Are your clients using Windows machines?  The reason I ask is that 
> there is no problem with having more than one version of Java 
> installed on the machine, if you are concerned with breaking existing 
> Java-based code.  We do that all the time.
>
> I wonder if it would be possible to create a small signed applet whose 
> sole purpose in life would be to download and run your RR startup 
> application.  The startup application would then be able to manage the 
> acquisition and updating of the other application stacks required to 
> do what you need it to do.
>
> I will experiment with this a bit and get back to you.
>
> --gordy
>
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Frank D. Engel, Jr.  <fde101 at fjrhome.net>

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Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
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