background groups issues

Jim Ault JimAultWins at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 22 03:20:33 EDT 2005


MisterX ,  <fixing multiple background groups..an idea>

Yes, I too had to get used the idea of the brave new world of group anarchy.

I once had to reach back to my old HC days where I had an important stack
with lots of copies of fields on the card background, not the stack
background. 

An idea for your situation would be to copy the original stack, delete all
cards but the one that has the correct layering, etc, then write a script
that will make a new card for each in the original, getting and setting all
the card-by-card items/fld data/radio settings/x,y,w,h...

The result would be a clean daughter stack.  Of course you would have to pay
attention to custom properties, but the handlers could become a generic
plugin or utility stack that could applied to a multitude of targets, using
"one to the number of card buttons.."

Just some thoughts.  It is true that the multiple bgs placed on multiple
cards in the same stack leads to confusion.  Perhaps there should be a
"multiple background enable" chkbox that is off by default and newbies would
not get 6 or 7 nested groups on each card they play around with.

Hope this helps.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 6/21/05 10:58 PM, "MisterX" <b.xavier at internet.lu> wrote: <shortened for
this reply><see the original for complete discussion>

> BG = group with GroupBehavior ON
> Grp = group w/o GrpBehavior ON
>  
> in Theory and as RevDocs say:
> If a create a stack with a background group and a background menu bar group,
> any card i create thereafter gets both background groups.
>  
> But if i created cards in these background stacks - which is the determinant
> of the group though? Neither and both as far as i know...
>  
> Change happens all the time so I decided to add a third group to the
> background. But it only shows up in the first card where i pasted it.

> The new model has new "powers" and less limitations but also less
> "user-friendly consistency" in a certain way.
>  
> - i dont want to paste the new group into the main background. I already
> have a menugroup that's independent from my "main" background.
>  
> ... (and if you sorted the cards and any card has 2 or 3
> different looks - it's not nice).
>  
> Seems like there should be a simple answer to this problem, but i have a
> huge number (read hundreds) of affected stacks now... Also it blocks
> completely the possibility of adding "simply" a theme to an existing stack
> that has backgrounds. It's not unscriptable - not worth the bugzilla time
> (and i dont think i'll get a satisfactory answer or attention-to-the-problem
> - this being a minority problem.
>  
> Any comments, ideas are more than welcome...
>  
>  
> cheers
> Xavier
> http://monsieurx.com/taoo
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