Enough already!

MisterX b.xavier at internet.lu
Wed Jun 9 01:38:03 EDT 2004


If you like being flamed as I have been for mouthing your objections, it's
in your right but it wouldn't be smart cognition or learning-ship of how
things work by human psychology standards.

Although my polite (Im pseudo-belgian) b1tching was polarized in different
ways to try to get some recognition in my critiques, Chipp's comments
regarding professional behavior have set me straight once more. Be objective
and put yourself in their shoes, no matter how ugly they can be!

It's not nice but complaining does provide some relief (to quote a
holo-doctor in ST Voyager). Naturally, bitching is futile and will prevent
your comments from being assimilated in their fullest intentions. The best
way you can help is
1) enter a bugzilla
2) make a plugin to replace the parts you dont like about RR!
3) buy RR and do it yourself (you seem to be working on borg technology so
it should a piece of cake for you !) (borg smiley)

But go ahead, make your day and moan all you want. RR is doing their best to
ply to everyone's comments, critiques and suggestions but time is still
their only barrier...

I could complain that only one person has sent a nice comment regarding my
new stack, but why? Im just enjoying my stack and if they prefer not using
it or feeling bad about it, it's their problem! Despite this moan, I can't
coerce them to do it or kindly request them to waste their time to do that
either! ;)

cheers
Xavier

> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com
> [mailto:use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com]On Behalf Of Dr.John
> R.Vokey
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 06:38
> To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com
> Subject: Enough already!
>
>
> All,
>    Sheesh! I have read too much fluff and politeness: it's like the
> whole RR list has become Canadian, eh.
>
> A. Let us all agree that:
>
> 1) the runrev team members are great, sweet, wonderful people to a
> fault.
> 2) runrev is great, sweet, wonderful, <all positive adjectives>, ...
>
> B. But that, the RR IDE (and some aspects of the engine) are deplorably
> buggy.
>
> So,
> 1) voice all bug complaints *without launching yet again into how ``the
> runrev team members are great, sweet, wonderful people to a fault'',
> and are all working hard, fingers to the bone, nose to the grind stone,
> etc.*  Let's just take that as given.
>
> 2) *don't apologise for the lousy documentation, inconsistent
> functioning, damnably stupid decisions (as you see it) by the RR team.
> After all, if *you* can't find it/understand it/use it correctly *it is
> not your fault*.  By definition, it is theirs.  It is their *job* to
> make it clear, straightforward, and simple.  (Imagine trying to make
> your career as a writer and always blaming the reader for ``failing to
> understand, not using the index or the appendix you oh so thoughtfully
> provided''.  Exactly.)
>
> 3) But they won't know to fix it if you don't engage in B.1.---whether
> by bugzilla, or by simply writing a letter.  *Don't* for a moment
> believe that you have to use bugzilla, or even email.  Believe (because
> of A.1.) that they will and do listen to every complaint.  Of course
> they do; they are not stupid (and, of course, ``are great, sweet,
> wonderful people to a fault.'').
>
> 4) But, by B.2., quit mealy-mouthing your responses: you have a right
> (and, if you care about the product, duty) to bitch, moan, complain,
> perseverate, and otherwise rain on RR and the team *without apology*.
> As for those (you know who you are) who inevitably and boringly jump to
> RR's defence at every seeming opportunity: give it up.  It is silly,
> unnecessary, and, importantly, insulting and often unfairly
> intimidating to the poor user who is just flummoxed by the many
> (entirely expected and predictable) failings of RR.  Remember, not all
> of us are Windoze users who expect and routinely receive much worse
> than RR has ever delivered.  My favourite: ``The only time Microsoft
> will deliver a product that doesn't suck, is when they sell vacuum
> cleaners''.)
>
> 5) I, of course, as a Canadian, did not mean to denigrate in any way
> the runrev team members who are all great, sweet, wonderful people to a
> fault.  ;-)  But, you need to claim my nationality to get away with
> such transparent piety.
>
> 6) Enough.  Really.  Stop it.
>
> --
> John R. Vokey, PhD
> Professor
> B.E.R.G. - Behaviour and Evolution Research Group
> Micro-Cognition Laboratory
> Department of Psychology & Neuroscience
> University of Lethbridge
> Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4
> CANADA
>
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