IDE inspectors should reveal all properties

MisterX x at monsieurx.com
Thu Nov 27 01:51:55 EST 2003


Funny I never received Dave's message in the list!

Nonetheless he has one point. Another is that many dont want to
try new tools - so many of them, so many of us!

I had hopes to make this a reference tool for all!
I will try nonetheless and hope to make you all happier in your
IDE!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com
> [mailto:use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com]On Behalf Of Wilhelm
> Sanke
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 23:58
> To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com
> Subject: Re: IDE inspectors should reveal all properties
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 Dave Cragg <dcragg at lacscentre.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > One reason for lack of feedback on Xavier's additions to the MC
> > development environment may have been a perceived lack of need by
> > many MC users. Not that we don't see shortcomings in the IDE, but I
> > imagine each user has his/her own ideas for what would constitute an
> > improvement. And as modifying the environment or making additions is
> > relatively easy, many have probably made their own "improvements". In
> > my own case, many of these changes are made ad hoc. Typically, I'll
> > make a utility stack for each project I work on which lets me poke
> > and pry to my heart's content. These utlities won't win prizes in the
> > interface stakes, but they get the job done. It's this kind of
> > flexibility that endeared me to Metacard. (And probably turned others
> > off.)
>
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 "MisterX" <x at monsieurx.com> wrote:
>
> > In brief, you get a hierarchical view of all your controls, with
> > editors for
> > content, scripts, all the props and a cool custom props browser. Any
> > property
> > has it's own menu with all the possible values (color, bool, etc...)
> > story and screenshots on my site (compared to MC's old control browser)
> > Note the story is one year old. Imagine if I had had more feedback where
> > these features could take you today!
>
>
>
> Like Dave said, a few of us have developed their own sort of browsers
> adapted to their specific needs, which we also have "advertized" here
> and there - among them Geoff Canyon, Richard Gaskin, Klaus Major,
> myself, and of course the ominous MisterX - so this may explain part of
> the lack of feedback to MisterX.
>
> My own Rev and MC browsers,  two years old and available for free, have
> also elicited a limited number of responses - maybe somewhat less than
> with MisterX's tools ( but I do not keep track how many people download
> from my ftp site).
>
> My browsers include a very quick and elaborate script search feature,
> which I  use quite often if I analyze stacks or have to adapt stacks
> that are somewhat complicated in their structure.
>
> The browsers have been mostly unchanged since two years. An addition
> that will be available shortly is a special groups' card where even
> "unplaced" backgrounds will be listed and can then be edited. There were
> requests for such a feature on the runrev lists.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wilhelm Sanke
>
>
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