Sort, Find, RawKeyDown ... / diacritical problems.

[Pierre]

De: Pierre <pierre.bernaert>
Date: Sam 1 mars 2003  09:20:33 Europe/Paris
À: Liste Révolution <use-revolution at lists.runrev.com>
Objet: Sort,  Find, RawKeyDown ... / diacritical problems.

Hi everyone,

I'm a french and i'm in the process of translating major (For me)  
applications written with Hypercard to RR 1.1.

The main tools of some of them mainly relies on "HyperText" approach.

I found, using RR, that SORT and FIND commands didn't work  with words  
having diacritical (Lettres accentuées).

Here is a small transcript which demonstrates what I mean for sorting:

On MouseUp
   Put "œuf,Elephant,Eléphant,Élephant,Éléphant,èléphant,Tigre," into  
OriginalValue
   Put OriginalValue into SortedValue
   Sort Items of line 1 of SortedValue
   Answer "Original Value :" && OriginalValue & return & "Sorted Value    
:" && SortedValue  & return &   Return & "The correct spelling in  
french is 'éléphant or Eléphant and œuf', other spellings are mistakes"
End MouseUp

The result is :
,Elephant,Eléphant,Tigre,Élephant,Éléphant,èléphant,œuf

Observing what the result is for "Tigre" and "œuf" shows what the  
problem is ...


Too bad for the command Find , for example "Find Eléphant" will not  
find éléphant


I did send a mail to Kevin Miller below is its reply.

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					My mail and the Answer from Kevin

De: Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com>
Date: Jeu 20 fév 2003  20:39:03 Europe/Paris
À: <pierre.bernaert at wanadoo.fr>
Objet: Rép : Find, Sort and more generally speaking "Diacritical" ...

On 19/2/03 8:25 am, Pierre <pierre.bernaert at www.runrev.com> wrote:

As you surely know, in RR 1.1 diacritical doesn't work as far as:

• At least FIND and SORT commands are concerned.
• I believe "RawKeyDown" is concerned too

In both cases you get wrong answers (This was working fine with HC
using "International" for sorting).

I'm not used to "Unicode", as far as I know it will be implemented in
Version 2.

Will "Unicode" solve this major problem for "Hyper Text" applications ?

Thank to tell me what are the plans on this topic.

You can script around these issues, relatively easily.  Unicode supports
entering and display international text.  We don't plan to make any  
further
changes to these functions for 2.0, but could consider revisiting this  
(at
the scripting level at least) for 2.1.  In the mean time, try asking on  
the
use-revolution mailing list, someone there is bound to be able to help  
write
a script to overcome these issues.

Kind regards,

Kevin
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As far as I am concerned I don't see how to deal with this, so my  
question to the members of this list is

Has some members an idea on how to solved this and better has someone  
made it work ??

Many Thanks

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