[Use-revolution] Digest use-revolution.v001.n147

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    001 - andu <undo at cloud9.net>    - Re: [a bit OT] instant messaging protocol
    002 - "Monte Goulding" <monte.g - RE: Networking
    003 - JacksHyperInfo at aol.com    - Re: adding objects to groups
    004 - Geoff Canyon <gcanyon at ins - Re: [Use-revolution] adding objects to groups
    005 - "Chipp Walters" <chipp at ch - RE: Networking
    006 - Ben Rubinstein <benr_mc at c - Re: adding objects to groups (Rev bug)
    007 - "Monte Goulding" <monte.g - RE: Networking
    008 - Kevin Miller <kevin at runre - Re: Rev memory
    009 - Kevin Miller <kevin at runre - Re: Revolution and XML
    010 - Kevin Miller <kevin at runre - Re: Intitialization Error: Can't find Home or Tools Stack
    011 - "Mark MacKenzie (Shaw)" < - Re:  Constraining movement
    012 - Troy Rollins <troy at rpsyst - Re: Constraining movement
    013 - Kevin Miller <kevin at runre - Re: Acrobat again
    014 - Kevin Miller <kevin at runre - Re: MouseEnter MouseLeave on a Line
    015 - Kevin Miller <kevin at runre - Re: I Don't Understand Why This Is

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From: andu <undo at cloud9.net>
Subject: Re: [a bit OT] instant messaging protocol
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:31:54 -0500
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Ben Rubinstein wrote:
> 
> does anyone know if any of the relatively well established instant messaging
> protocols are documented?  I want to implement a client in Rev (which can
> take special action in response to some messages) but ideally it would use a
> standard protocol so it could interact with standard clients.

IRQ, AIM, IMPP but none is universal like FTP. Search the net for their
docs.

> 
> TIA,
> 
>   Ben Rubinstein               |  Email: benr_mc at cogapp.com
>   Cognitive Applications Ltd   |  Phone: +44 (0)1273-821600
>   http://www.cogapp.com        |  Fax  : +44 (0)1273-728866

-- 
__________________________
 Regards, Andu


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From: "Monte Goulding" <monte.goulding at senet.com.au>
Subject: RE: Networking
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:14:56 +1030
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To everyone who has helped with this

Thanks ;-)

I'm just checking out the two main options Dave and DoubleTalk. Seeing as I
am more Windows oriented and my fastest computer runs Win XP I'm going to go
for the "disguise Mac as a PC options".

Regards to all

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com
[mailto:use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com]On Behalf Of Scott Rossi
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 7:23 AM
To: use-revolution at www.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Networking


Recently, Troy Rollins wrote:

>> How are you sharing between Windows and Macs?  There are two main ways:
>>
>> 1) treat your network as a PC network and install Dave on the Mac
>>
>> 2) treat your network as a Mac network and install PC MacLAN on the
>> PCs (this is what I've done)
>
> 3) Connectix (www.connectix.com) has a product called DoubleTalk, which
> allows a Mac to disguise itself as a windows machine - join networks, peer
> level file sharing, shared postscript printers, etc. Works as well or
better
> than options 1 or 2 (I've used 'm all), and is currently on sale for about
> $50 USD.

Thanks for this info.  Problem for me is, my Windows network rarely works
correctly, much less is it as easy to setup/manage as a Mac network. :-)

Regards,

Scott

_____________________________________________________________________
Scott Rossi                       Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
Creative Director                 Email: scott at tactilemedia.com
                                  Web: www.tactilemedia.com



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From: JacksHyperInfo at aol.com
Subject: Re: adding objects to groups
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:44:44 EST
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In a message dated 11/27/2001 10:08:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
benr_mc at cogapp.com writes:


> Is there a way to add an object to an existing group?
> 
> I've not found any way to do so - only to ungroup the existing set, and
> regroup with the new ones; which obviously loses all the properties of the
> group.
> 
> If there isn't, it would be a handy addition.


I'm a novice but I think that would be edit Group wouldn't it?  Select the 
group and Choose edit group under objects -place your new object and then 
choose unedit group and save your changes.

Jack B

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From: Geoff Canyon <gcanyon at inspiredlogic.com>
Subject: Re: [Use-revolution] adding objects to groups
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:22:36 -0800
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At 2:27 AM +0000 11/28/01, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
>I've not found any way to do so - only to ungroup the existing set, and
>regroup with the new ones; which obviously loses all the properties of the
>group.

I think that if relayerGroupedControls is true, you can move objects into and out of groups by setting their layer.

You'd have to check the exact property name.

regards,

Geoff


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From: "Chipp Walters" <chipp at chipp.com>
Subject: RE: Networking
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:58:07 -0600
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Monte,

I just went through the same hassle tonight. I ended up using Microsoft
Personal Web Server on my Mac and put files there. I could then easily
transfer them to my PC by opening up a browser with the IPAddress of my Mac
and downloading the files directly to my PC. It's fast and cheap (free) from
Microsoft. Go to the downloads section there and search on MacOS and
Personal Web Server.

-Chipp

-----Original Message-----
From: use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com
[mailto:use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com]On Behalf Of Monte Goulding
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:45 PM
To: use-revolution at www.runrev.com
Subject: RE: Networking


To everyone who has helped with this

Thanks ;-)

I'm just checking out the two main options Dave and DoubleTalk. Seeing as I
am more Windows oriented and my fastest computer runs Win XP I'm going to go
for the "disguise Mac as a PC options".

Regards to all

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com
[mailto:use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com]On Behalf Of Scott Rossi
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 7:23 AM
To: use-revolution at www.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Networking


Recently, Troy Rollins wrote:

>> How are you sharing between Windows and Macs?  There are two main ways:
>>
>> 1) treat your network as a PC network and install Dave on the Mac
>>
>> 2) treat your network as a Mac network and install PC MacLAN on the
>> PCs (this is what I've done)
>
> 3) Connectix (www.connectix.com) has a product called DoubleTalk, which
> allows a Mac to disguise itself as a windows machine - join networks, peer
> level file sharing, shared postscript printers, etc. Works as well or
better
> than options 1 or 2 (I've used 'm all), and is currently on sale for about
> $50 USD.

Thanks for this info.  Problem for me is, my Windows network rarely works
correctly, much less is it as easy to setup/manage as a Mac network. :-)

Regards,

Scott

_____________________________________________________________________
Scott Rossi                       Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
Creative Director                 Email: scott at tactilemedia.com
                                  Web: www.tactilemedia.com



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From: Ben Rubinstein <benr_mc at cogapp.com>
Subject: Re: adding objects to groups (Rev bug)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:13:29 +0000
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Thanks all for their replies.  To add an existing object to an existing
group (to add a new object you can either use 'create x in group y' as andu
suggested, or edit the group before creating the object as Jack noted) you
have two choices: 
    - set relayerGroupedControls to true and move the object up or down the
layers to enter the group
    - when you ungroup some objects, the details of the group are
remembered; when you make a new group in the same session, it is actually
made with the properties of the old group, including name, id, and script.

Small documentation note on the first approach: the documentation observes
that you can use relayerGroupedControls to take an object out of the group,
but doesn't mention the reverse:

    "If the relayerGroupedControls is true, you can move a control
    out of a group by setting its layer to a number greater than
    the topmost control in the group, or less than the bottom-most
    control in the group."

Small implementation note, related to the second approach: this no doubt
works fine if you ungroup, reselect, regroup.  However if used more loosely,
or even if you weren't trying to use this feature at all, but just unselect
a group one place, then go somewhere else and make a new group, it can upset
Revolution more than somewhat, to the point of corrupting stacks.

Recipe:
    - launch Rev
    - make a new mainstack
    - add two buttons
    - group them
    - ungroup them
    - make a new mainstack
    - add three buttons
    - attempt to group the first two

Result: a group with the same id (1005) as the third button.  If you try to
look at this stack in the App Overview, you'll get errors.  If you save this
stack, quit Rev and relaunch+load, you'll find it is an interesting state.
It appears to have only one button; 'the number of buttons' may return 2 or
4; the details of button 1 may be identical to button 2; etc.  You've
certainly lost the first two buttons.  In principle I'd have thought this
could result in genuine loss of work.

So it looks like this is a handy feature (that details of the last removed
group are remembered) which needs a small additional bit of error trapping,
to not restore the old id (or perhaps not restore the old group info at all)
if that id is already in use.

  Ben Rubinstein               |  Email: benr_mc at cogapp.com
  Cognitive Applications Ltd   |  Phone: +44 (0)1273-821600
  http://www.cogapp.com        |  Fax  : +44 (0)1273-728866



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From: "Monte Goulding" <monte.goulding at senet.com.au>
Subject: RE: Networking
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:18:54 +1030
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Thats a good idea. I'll check it out. It's really pissing me off because the
main reason I wanted a network was to transfer files easily between the PC
and Mac for testing and standalone building. These things shouldn't be so
hard when everything else is just plug and play.

-----Original Message-----
From: use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com
[mailto:use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com]On Behalf Of Chipp Walters
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 6:28 PM
To: use-revolution at www.runrev.com
Subject: RE: Networking


Monte,

I just went through the same hassle tonight. I ended up using Microsoft
Personal Web Server on my Mac and put files there. I could then easily
transfer them to my PC by opening up a browser with the IPAddress of my Mac
and downloading the files directly to my PC. It's fast and cheap (free) from
Microsoft. Go to the downloads section there and search on MacOS and
Personal Web Server.

-Chipp

-----Original Message-----
From: use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com
[mailto:use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com]On Behalf Of Monte Goulding
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:45 PM
To: use-revolution at www.runrev.com
Subject: RE: Networking


To everyone who has helped with this

Thanks ;-)

I'm just checking out the two main options Dave and DoubleTalk. Seeing as I
am more Windows oriented and my fastest computer runs Win XP I'm going to go
for the "disguise Mac as a PC options".

Regards to all

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com
[mailto:use-revolution-errors at www.runrev.com]On Behalf Of Scott Rossi
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 7:23 AM
To: use-revolution at www.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Networking


Recently, Troy Rollins wrote:

>> How are you sharing between Windows and Macs?  There are two main ways:
>>
>> 1) treat your network as a PC network and install Dave on the Mac
>>
>> 2) treat your network as a Mac network and install PC MacLAN on the
>> PCs (this is what I've done)
>
> 3) Connectix (www.connectix.com) has a product called DoubleTalk, which
> allows a Mac to disguise itself as a windows machine - join networks, peer
> level file sharing, shared postscript printers, etc. Works as well or
better
> than options 1 or 2 (I've used 'm all), and is currently on sale for about
> $50 USD.

Thanks for this info.  Problem for me is, my Windows network rarely works
correctly, much less is it as easy to setup/manage as a Mac network. :-)

Regards,

Scott

_____________________________________________________________________
Scott Rossi                       Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
Creative Director                 Email: scott at tactilemedia.com
                                  Web: www.tactilemedia.com



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From: Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com>
Subject: Re: Rev memory
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:20:01 +0000
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On 16/11/01 9:13 pm, Curry Kenworthy <curry at kagi.com> wrote:

> Well, I decided not to waste time; last night I took my computer to the
> shop. Now I've tried Rev with 160 MB and it's a whole 'nother creature!
> Starts fast, loads the dictionary fast, exits instantly. Great! (Before,
> with 32MB of physical RAM and virtual memory on 64MB, it took as much as two
> minutes for Rev to quit.)
> 
> So, I'd say if anyone is having problems, better add RAM and not waste time
> dealing with the problems, since the memory upgrade price is pretty trivial.
> (CompUSA was very reasonable on the memory and the installation was free.) I
> think Rev definitely needs 48 or 64 MB of physical memory to avoid having
> problems. (It's only the development environment that takes the memory,
> though; standalones are quite small.)
> 
> However, it still seems that Revolution, compared to the requirements of the
> engine, requires a bit more than would be expected. Especially, the
> Transcript dictionary has trouble loading on a computer with less memory,
> perhaps breaking it into more than one file would help since it's a pretty
> large stack. Choosing between new features and improvements or
> memory-friendliness, of course I'd prefer the company to spend their time
> adding the new features and improvements, and now I have the extra memory
> anyway.
> 
> I just wanted to mention it as an FYI in case the company does want to
> consider it. Reaching out to more customers with the crossgrade offer, some
> may have, like me, equipment that they consider almost brand new but is long
> outdated by the standards of the cutting-edge developers and professionals.
> Hey, enough talk, I'm off to finally use Revolution running smoothly!

Thanks for the post.  The development environment *does* require quite a lot
of memory, though as you say that doesn't have to be the case for
standalones your produce.  We could look at improving it, but at present our
priorities must be elsewhere.  Having that memory available will greatly
improve your experience developing with Revolution, and should be the first
port of call if you are having any problems.  Again, this refers to
development, you have control over how much memory your distribution takes
depending on how you develop it).

Regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com> <http://www.runrev.com/>
Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer!
Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165.  Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707.



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From: Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com>
Subject: Re: Revolution and XML
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:25:11 +0000
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On 20/11/01 10:19 am, Ben Rubinstein <benr_mc at cogapp.com> wrote:

>> I'd love to see some decent XML parsing capabilities built into Rev.
>> I can see many half-baked and time consuming DIY attempts otherwise.
> 
> Yep - I'm just about to start a half-baked and time consuming DIY attempt
> today!
> 
> Is anyone else/has anyone else put much time into thinking about this?  I'd
> be interested in discussing what others think is a decent architecture and
> syntax (or perhaps this belongs on the xtalks list?)

It does, and improvements to make this easier would be an interesting debate
to have over on that list.  (At present you can do this fine with the
scripting language though.)

Kevin

Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com> <http://www.runrev.com/>
Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer!
Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165.  Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707.



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From: Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com>
Subject: Re: Intitialization Error: Can't find Home or Tools Stack
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:52:24 +0000
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On 27/11/01 5:53 am, Chipp Walters <chipp at chipp.com> wrote:

> I get this message when I launch RR1.1 Win89SE. With an OKAY button which
> quits me back to the desktop. I can fix it by reinstalling RR1.1. This is
> the 3rd time in 2 days. I don't think I'm doing anything weird, but you
> never know!
> 
> I checked and the files are where they're supposed to be. Perhaps a simple
> file can be exchanged and it will work okay. Any suggestions?

Are you saving any changes to a stack called "home" using a script?  Can you
check the modification dates of the files inside the Revolution directory
and see if any of the components are modified?  That will give us a clue as
to which file has gone wrong, though I'm guessing it is going to be
license.rev.  Try backing that file up and replacing it when this happens,
that will also at least help us to narrow it down to that file.

Regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com> <http://www.runrev.com/>
Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer!
Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165.  Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707.



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From: "Mark MacKenzie (Shaw)" <markmac at shaw.ca>
Subject: Re:  Constraining movement
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:44:46 -0600
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Someone wrote:
snip

(for those of you still paying attention... ;-)

Ah, hem.

As the probable cause of this current thread I am very much paying
attention.  It also has obviously sparked some interest along with great
code thinking, debugging and simplification efforts.  Wow!  On this one I
can't contribute but learn and have been busy studying, and implementing the
various offered routines in my project and seeing what happened as a way of
further loosening the "training wheels".  Minor tinkering with the control
names, etc. was all that was required.  It works very well now.  There is
other functionality which I am attempting to layer on now.  I am not trying
to stifle further thought on this problem as this is the only way that
useful material is going to get into the mail archives for oncoming
"newbies" like myself.

I think this current thread is important as a basic tool for those involved
in intermediate through advanced multimedia.

The exercise project this is going into is what we call a "Thumbnail Image
Scroller".  Wherein the user causes scrolling of a large image within a
smaller window by grabbing and moving a red bordered rectangle with the
mouse.  This rectangle (you guessed it, the target of this current thread)
is itself showing and moving within a small image version of the much larger
scrolling image.  This tool will allow for dynamic switching of the main and
smaller image media and size the target rectangle graphic accordingly.

Troy will recognize this from a very useful tool plugin available for
iShell.

My intent upon completion was not only to use it in my own projects but to
offer it as a demo tool stack for the demonstration of advanced multimedia
abilities.  After so much help I think that I can't renege on this!

Thank you very much one and all.

Regards

Mark



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From: Troy Rollins <troy at rpsystems.net>
Subject: Re: Constraining movement
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:22:14 -0500
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Mark MacKenzie (Shaw)  wrote:

> This tool will allow for dynamic switching of the main and
> smaller image media and size the target rectangle graphic accordingly.
> 
> Troy will recognize this from a very useful tool plugin available for
> iShell.

I do, Mark... And I thought that might be the case. It certainly did foster
a LOT of great insight on this list, and I too learned some new stuff
because of it. I look forward to seeing the finished result, as well as what
you next "little" project will cause to happen here.  ;)
-- 
Troy
RPSystems
www.rpsystems.net



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From: Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com>
Subject: Re: Acrobat again
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:30:49 +0000
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On 25/11/01 10:20 am, Matt Denton <matt.denton at limelight.com.au> wrote:

> (had a crash, not sure if last msg got through)
> 
> I'm trying to find out what version of Acrobat is installed on a Mac or
> PC.  QTime is pretty easy, but what about other apps?  Is there a way to
> find out what apps are installed and version number?
> 
> Searched through the extensive list but couldn't find it.  Maybe it is
> buried somewhere...

You should be able to find the path to the current Acrobat installation
using the Registry on Windows.  There may be something stored in the
registry to indicate the version.  Not sure about the Mac, there may be a
way with AppleScript and the creator code (anyone?).  If you have the path
to the application you can use the getResource function on the Mac to find
out the version number.

> Many thanks,
> 
> M at tt!
> 
> PS Rev is one of those packages you just start loving more and more!
> Amazing power in Transcript...

:-)

Regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com> <http://www.runrev.com/>
Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer!
Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165.  Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707.



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From: Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com>
Subject: Re: MouseEnter MouseLeave on a Line
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:32:28 +0000
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On 25/11/01 10:59 am, Matt Denton <matt.denton at limelight.com.au> wrote:

> I'm trying to get a graphic of a dot to show on a line for resizing and
> dragging.   I'm using the 'mouseEnter' and 'mouseLeave' messages to show
> and hide the dot respectively.  It works if you roll into the line from
> the bottom of the line (at 45 degrees angle in Cartesian co-ords) but
> the mouseLeave message is incorrectly send from the top to the left of
> the line.  It seems as if the line is forming an invisible triangle --
> not exactly the size of the bounding rect -- and sending mouseLeave once
> the cursor leaves the invisible shape.  The line is two pixels wide.
> May be an OSX scaling/size issue, found some of the controls to also be
> out of register.
> 
> Any clues?
> 
> I'm on 10.1.1 and Rev 1.1

Please send me an example stack with the problem off list so I can take a
look at it here.

Thanks,

Kevin

Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com> <http://www.runrev.com/>
Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer!
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From: Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com>
Subject: Re: I Don't Understand Why This Is
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:49:31 +0000
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On 24/11/01 5:49 am, Mark MacKenzie (Shaw) <markmac at shaw.ca> wrote:

> I am developing a tool stack which will eventually give me all the variables
> in a multi-stack project.

Try:

put the globals

Also, note there is a tab in the Message Box which shows all global
variables.

Regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com> <http://www.runrev.com/>
Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer!
Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165.  Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707.



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