From klaus at major-k.de  Sat Nov  1 10:01:15 2025
From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2025 15:01:15 +0100
Subject: LC Forum down!
Message-ID: <712E2EE5-79AB-4B11-9ADE-ED7C675718D1@major-k.de>

Hi all,

looks like the forum server is down. :-/

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From dan at clearvisiontech.com  Sat Nov  1 13:32:28 2025
From: dan at clearvisiontech.com (Dan Friedman)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2025 17:32:28 +0000
Subject: LC Server/Website down?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1761580801.3370529.livecode-dev@lists.runrev.com>
References: <mailman.3.1761580801.3370529.livecode-dev@lists.runrev.com>
Message-ID: 
 <SN7PR12MB8028B6CE3741158A9B1F2469B9F9A@SN7PR12MB8028.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Went to get Release LiveCode 10.0.3 RC-2 this morning and it looks like the LC Server is kaput.   Any thoughts?

From klaus at major-k.de  Sat Nov  1 17:49:33 2025
From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2025 22:49:33 +0100
Subject: LC Server/Website down?
In-Reply-To: 
 <SN7PR12MB8028B6CE3741158A9B1F2469B9F9A@SN7PR12MB8028.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
References: <mailman.3.1761580801.3370529.livecode-dev@lists.runrev.com>
 <SN7PR12MB8028B6CE3741158A9B1F2469B9F9A@SN7PR12MB8028.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <53B38821-C983-4AD8-BEF6-826625BD66AF@major-k.de>

Hi Dan,

> Am 01.11.2025 um 18:32 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Went to get Release LiveCode 10.0.3 RC-2 this morning and it looks like the LC Server is kaput.   Any thoughts?

yep, the forums are down, too.
I already URGENTly reported it. :-) 


Oooops. UPDATE:
Everything is up and running again!


Best

Klaus
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https://www.major-k.de
https://www.major-k.de/bass
klaus at major-k.de


From benr_mc at cogapp.com  Fri Nov  7 10:46:10 2025
From: benr_mc at cogapp.com (Ben Rubinstein)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 15:46:10 +0000
Subject: LiveCode and Parquet?
Message-ID: <4b879e6e-96fa-4cd0-96e5-8a767fda5bec@cogapp.com>

Has anyone worked with Parquet (https://parquet.apache.org/) in LiveCode?

TIA,

Ben

From scott at elementarysoftware.com  Sun Nov  9 05:41:28 2025
From: scott at elementarysoftware.com (scott at elementarysoftware.com)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2025 02:41:28 -0800
Subject: Save As Standalone Application causes LC to Quit
Message-ID: <9D89579F-5FD2-4F3E-A48C-24179B2E27A7@elementarysoftware.com>

I am trying to create standalones  for Windows and MacOS from a LC project that is about 20 years old and hasn’t been revisited for quite awhile. It appears to run fine in the IDE and I don’t believe it requires any inclusions beyond “Internet" and “Cursors" but when I try to "Save As Standalone Application…" it gets just far enough to create the enclosing folder and then LC quits. I have tried building from various versions of LC and from both Mac (Intel and M2) and Windows. Always the same result.  I am not sure how to debug this particular situation. I am suspicious that there is a bit of legacy LiveCode scripting language that was once allowed / overlooked  but now isn’t.  (I have been unsuccessful when attempting to step through the rev IDE stack scripts)  Suggestions? 

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From merakosp at gmail.com  Sun Nov  9 10:37:00 2025
From: merakosp at gmail.com (panagiotis merakos)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2025 17:37:00 +0200
Subject: Save As Standalone Application causes LC to Quit
In-Reply-To: <9D89579F-5FD2-4F3E-A48C-24179B2E27A7@elementarysoftware.com>
References: <9D89579F-5FD2-4F3E-A48C-24179B2E27A7@elementarysoftware.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CA+JfEq_AT6aSEOW8foMGQghVg=B_JjnpaOaOzpA8hqkzHSV0ug@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Scott,

Do you have a 'quit' command in your closeStack/closeCard handlers?

Panos

On Sun, 9 Nov 2025, 12:43 scott--- via use-livecode, <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I am trying to create standalones  for Windows and MacOS from a LC project
> that is about 20 years old and hasn’t been revisited for quite awhile. It
> appears to run fine in the IDE and I don’t believe it requires any
> inclusions beyond “Internet" and “Cursors" but when I try to "Save As
> Standalone Application…" it gets just far enough to create the enclosing
> folder and then LC quits. I have tried building from various versions of LC
> and from both Mac (Intel and M2) and Windows. Always the same result.  I am
> not sure how to debug this particular situation. I am suspicious that there
> is a bit of legacy LiveCode scripting language that was once allowed /
> overlooked  but now isn’t.  (I have been unsuccessful when attempting to
> step through the rev IDE stack scripts)  Suggestions?
>
> --
> Scott Morrow
>
> Elementary Software
> (Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
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> email     scott at elementarysoftware.com
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>
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>
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From scott at elementarysoftware.com  Sun Nov  9 17:53:47 2025
From: scott at elementarysoftware.com (scott at elementarysoftware.com)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2025 14:53:47 -0800
Subject: Save As Standalone Application causes LC to Quit
In-Reply-To: 
 <CA+JfEq_AT6aSEOW8foMGQghVg=B_JjnpaOaOzpA8hqkzHSV0ug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9D89579F-5FD2-4F3E-A48C-24179B2E27A7@elementarysoftware.com>
 <CA+JfEq_AT6aSEOW8foMGQghVg=B_JjnpaOaOzpA8hqkzHSV0ug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D0049198-6943-442C-B5AB-9D0A78E942EF@elementarysoftware.com>

Thank you, Panos. That was it. Much appreciated!
--
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> On Nov 9, 2025, at 7:37 AM, panagiotis merakos <merakosp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Scott,
> 
> Do you have a 'quit' command in your closeStack/closeCard handlers?
> 
> Panos 
> 
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025, 12:43 scott--- via use-livecode, <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> I am trying to create standalones  for Windows and MacOS from a LC project that is about 20 years old and hasn’t been revisited for quite awhile. It appears to run fine in the IDE and I don’t believe it requires any inclusions beyond “Internet" and “Cursors" but when I try to "Save As Standalone Application…" it gets just far enough to create the enclosing folder and then LC quits. I have tried building from various versions of LC and from both Mac (Intel and M2) and Windows. Always the same result.  I am not sure how to debug this particular situation. I am suspicious that there is a bit of legacy LiveCode scripting language that was once allowed / overlooked  but now isn’t.  (I have been unsuccessful when attempting to step through the rev IDE stack scripts)  Suggestions? 
> 
> --
> Scott Morrow
> 
> Elementary Software
> (Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
> web       https://elementarysoftware.com/
> email     scott at elementarysoftware.com
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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From tore.nilsen at me.com  Sun Nov 16 08:18:39 2025
From: tore.nilsen at me.com (Tore Nilsen)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2025 14:18:39 +0100
Subject: Chart widget not displaying in standalone
Message-ID: <F400D22E-AE24-41A4-94ED-EBF64B3A154D@me.com>

I have made a simple application that uses the Chart widget in LC-Create. The widget works fine in the IDE, but when I try to dynamically change values in the standalone, only the x and y scales show. As far as I can see, the js-bundle is part of the application bundle on MacOS. (Intel chip). I have tried to set inclusions both manually and having LC do the job for me. Anyone with any idea as to what may be the reason for this?

Best regards
Tore Nilsen

From dfe4 at cornell.edu  Fri Nov 21 12:05:55 2025
From: dfe4 at cornell.edu (David Epstein)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 12:05:55 -0500
Subject: Any way to persistently lock messages?
Message-ID: <01C471C7-8A88-4463-B2F2-F3CE421133F6@cornell.edu>

I am wondering if any other users have faced or solved this problem:

I have over the years constantly revised some basic tools I use to create and edit stacks where I store substantive information of various kinds (tables, images, text).  The scripts of those substantive stacks send messages to be handled by my “tool” stack; but as a result of later revisions of my tool stack some of those handlers have disappeared.  So if I simply want to inspect old substantive stacks I am stymied by error messages.

One solution would be an ability to lock messages persistently, but I do not see a way to do this.  I can imagine a workaround that would lock messages, then copy the content but not the scripts of the objects in my substantive stack to some new stack  where I could study them.

But I wonder if someone has already done this or has a different idea.

Many thanks.

David Epstein

From craig at starfirelighting.com  Fri Nov 21 13:18:09 2025
From: craig at starfirelighting.com (Craig Newman)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 13:18:09 -0500
Subject: Any way to persistently lock messages?
In-Reply-To: <01C471C7-8A88-4463-B2F2-F3CE421133F6@cornell.edu>
References: <01C471C7-8A88-4463-B2F2-F3CE421133F6@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <7CD0B014-49FC-4108-9E78-369DFACA6281@starfirelighting.com>

Hi.

Check out the “errorMode” property in the dictionary.

You might also trap and bury the “errorDialog” message, but I bet the above is better.

Craig

> On Nov 21, 2025, at 12:05 PM, David Epstein via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I am wondering if any other users have faced or solved this problem:
> 
> I have over the years constantly revised some basic tools I use to create and edit stacks where I store substantive information of various kinds (tables, images, text).  The scripts of those substantive stacks send messages to be handled by my “tool” stack; but as a result of later revisions of my tool stack some of those handlers have disappeared.  So if I simply want to inspect old substantive stacks I am stymied by error messages.
> 
> One solution would be an ability to lock messages persistently, but I do not see a way to do this.  I can imagine a workaround that would lock messages, then copy the content but not the scripts of the objects in my substantive stack to some new stack  where I could study them.
> 
> But I wonder if someone has already done this or has a different idea.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> David Epstein
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From jacque at hyperactivesw.com  Sat Nov 22 13:01:04 2025
From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2025 12:01:04 -0600
Subject: Any way to persistently lock messages?
In-Reply-To: <01C471C7-8A88-4463-B2F2-F3CE421133F6@cornell.edu>
References: <01C471C7-8A88-4463-B2F2-F3CE421133F6@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: 
 <19aacba0700.2812.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com>

Does the "lock messages" icon in the toolbar at the top do it?

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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On November 21, 2025 11:08:26 AM David Epstein via use-livecode 
<use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I am wondering if any other users have faced or solved this problem:
>
> I have over the years constantly revised some basic tools I use to create 
> and edit stacks where I store substantive information of various kinds 
> (tables, images, text).  The scripts of those substantive stacks send 
> messages to be handled by my “tool” stack; but as a result of later 
> revisions of my tool stack some of those handlers have disappeared.  So if 
> I simply want to inspect old substantive stacks I am stymied by error messages.
>
> One solution would be an ability to lock messages persistently, but I do 
> not see a way to do this.  I can imagine a workaround that would lock 
> messages, then copy the content but not the scripts of the objects in my 
> substantive stack to some new stack  where I could study them.
>
> But I wonder if someone has already done this or has a different idea.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> David Epstein
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From dfe4 at cornell.edu  Mon Nov 24 09:42:55 2025
From: dfe4 at cornell.edu (David Epstein)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 09:42:55 -0500
Subject: Any way to persistently lock messages?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1763917201.294249.use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
References: <mailman.1.1763917201.294249.use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
Message-ID: <5A27021B-710D-4C33-8712-63B83CA487C3@cornell.edu>

Many thanks to Craig and Jacqueline for their suggestions.  I had never used the “errorMode,” but could not get it to work.  The “suspend errors” button (or menu command) seems to do what I want, but with a bad bug (see below).  The “suspend messages” button (or menu command) does work as Jacques suggested.  

I created a test stack that has one button with this script:

on mouseEnter
   put random(1000)
   get missingHandler()
end mouseEnter

A.  With neither “suspend messages” nor “suspend errors” in effect, when the mouse enters the button, the message box gets a number and an error is triggered by line 2’s missing handler.

B.  If I “set the errormode to quiet”, the same thing happens (so this did not suppress the error on line 2).

C.  If I choose “Suspend messages”, no number is put and no error is triggered.  As expected!

D.  If (with “Suspend messages” turned off) I choose “Suspend errors,” the number is put but no error is triggered.  As expected!

But:  I can execute case D once, but the stack then becomes unresponsive.  If the mouse reenters the button, no number is put; and other controls will not execute their scripts either.  It is as if having suspended errors successfully once, all messages get suspended, and nothing works until I restart.

So I think “Suspend messages” will do what I want, but I would like to understand why “Suspend errors” (which would be preferable for my purposes, since it allows innocent messages to proceed) doesn’t seem to operate correctly.

David Epstein




> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2025 12:01:04 -0600
> From: "J. Landman Gay" <jacque at hyperactivesw.com>
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Subject: Re: Any way to persistently lock messages?
> Message-ID:
> 	<19aacba0700.2812.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9 at hyperactivesw.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Does the "lock messages" icon in the toolbar at the top do it?
> 
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On November 21, 2025 11:08:26 AM David Epstein via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am wondering if any other users have faced or solved this problem:
>> 
>> I have over the years constantly revised some basic tools I use to create 
>> and edit stacks where I store substantive information of various kinds 
>> (tables, images, text).  The scripts of those substantive stacks send 
>> messages to be handled by my “tool” stack; but as a result of later 
>> revisions of my tool stack some of those handlers have disappeared.  So if 
>> I simply want to inspect old substantive stacks I am stymied by error messages.
>> 
>> One solution would be an ability to lock messages persistently, but I do 
>> not see a way to do this.  I can imagine a workaround that would lock 
>> messages, then copy the content but not the scripts of the objects in my 
>> substantive stack to some new stack  where I could study them.
>> 
>> But I wonder if someone has already done this or has a different idea.
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> David Epstein

From neville.smythe at optusnet.com.au  Mon Nov 24 14:17:17 2025
From: neville.smythe at optusnet.com.au (neville.smythe at optusnet.com.au)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 19:17:17 +0000
Subject: Any way to persistently lock messages?
Message-ID: <30b96e17-debd-4ad8-b9dc-f0e6513c7363@localhost>

I must admit I am not entirely sure what you want  but perhaps..

Instead of a direct call to the handler, can you use

Dispatch [function] <handlername> to <toolstack> [with parameters]

The It variable (or is it the result?, I can never remember) will contain “not handled” if the handler does not exist

Neville Smythe

From craig at starfirelighting.com  Tue Nov 25 10:01:16 2025
From: craig at starfirelighting.com (Craig Newman)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 10:01:16 -0500
Subject: Any way to persistently lock messages?
In-Reply-To: <30b96e17-debd-4ad8-b9dc-f0e6513c7363@localhost>
References: <30b96e17-debd-4ad8-b9dc-f0e6513c7363@localhost>
Message-ID: <2FA6CE78-4EB7-4C64-BA85-6B1160061FC8@starfirelighting.com>

The result.

Craig

> On Nov 24, 2025, at 2:17 PM, neville smythe via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I must admit I am not entirely sure what you want  but perhaps..
> 
> Instead of a direct call to the handler, can you use
> 
> Dispatch [function] <handlername> to <toolstack> [with parameters]
> 
> The It variable (or is it the result?, I can never remember) will contain “not handled” if the handler does not exist
> 
> Neville Smythe
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From jacque at hyperactivesw.com  Tue Nov 25 13:26:35 2025
From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 12:26:35 -0600
Subject: Any way to persistently lock messages?
In-Reply-To: <5A27021B-710D-4C33-8712-63B83CA487C3@cornell.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1763917201.294249.use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
 <5A27021B-710D-4C33-8712-63B83CA487C3@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: 
 <19abc447778.2812.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com>

If you put this into the stack script does it do what you want?

on errorDialog pError
  put pError
end errorDialog
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On November 24, 2025 8:45:31 AM David Epstein via use-livecode 
<use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Many thanks to Craig and Jacqueline for their suggestions.  I had never 
> used the “errorMode,” but could not get it to work.  The “suspend errors” 
> button (or menu command) seems to do what I want, but with a bad bug (see 
> below).  The “suspend messages” button (or menu command) does work as 
> Jacques suggested.
>
> I created a test stack that has one button with this script:
>
> on mouseEnter
>   put random(1000)
>   get missingHandler()
> end mouseEnter
>
> A.  With neither “suspend messages” nor “suspend errors” in effect, when 
> the mouse enters the button, the message box gets a number and an error is 
> triggered by line 2’s missing handler.
>
> B.  If I “set the errormode to quiet”, the same thing happens (so this did 
> not suppress the error on line 2).
>
> C.  If I choose “Suspend messages”, no number is put and no error is 
> triggered.  As expected!
>
> D.  If (with “Suspend messages” turned off) I choose “Suspend errors,” the 
> number is put but no error is triggered.  As expected!
>
> But:  I can execute case D once, but the stack then becomes unresponsive.  
> If the mouse reenters the button, no number is put; and other controls will 
> not execute their scripts either.  It is as if having suspended errors 
> successfully once, all messages get suspended, and nothing works until I 
> restart.
>
> So I think “Suspend messages” will do what I want, but I would like to 
> understand why “Suspend errors” (which would be preferable for my purposes, 
> since it allows innocent messages to proceed) doesn’t seem to operate 
> correctly.
>
> David Epstein
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2025 12:01:04 -0600
>> From: "J. Landman Gay" <jacque at hyperactivesw.com>
>> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
>> Subject: Re: Any way to persistently lock messages?
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<19aacba0700.2812.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9 at hyperactivesw.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Does the "lock messages" icon in the toolbar at the top do it?
>>
>> --
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> On November 21, 2025 11:08:26 AM David Epstein via use-livecode
>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am wondering if any other users have faced or solved this problem:
>>>
>>> I have over the years constantly revised some basic tools I use to create
>>> and edit stacks where I store substantive information of various kinds
>>> (tables, images, text).  The scripts of those substantive stacks send
>>> messages to be handled by my “tool” stack; but as a result of later
>>> revisions of my tool stack some of those handlers have disappeared.  So if
>>> I simply want to inspect old substantive stacks I am stymied by error messages.
>>>
>>> One solution would be an ability to lock messages persistently, but I do
>>> not see a way to do this.  I can imagine a workaround that would lock
>>> messages, then copy the content but not the scripts of the objects in my
>>> substantive stack to some new stack  where I could study them.
>>>
>>> But I wonder if someone has already done this or has a different idea.
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>> David Epstein
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From dfe4 at cornell.edu  Tue Nov 25 13:53:12 2025
From: dfe4 at cornell.edu (David Epstein)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 13:53:12 -0500
Subject: Any way to persistently lock messages?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1764090001.3079797.use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
References: <mailman.1.1764090001.3079797.use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
Message-ID: <2B3498A5-0A71-4634-9274-B38BC3FEB89E@cornell.edu>

Jacqueline Gay wrote:

If you put this into the stack script does it do what you want?

on errorDialog pError
  put pError
end errorDialog
Answer:  Yes it does!  Errors are ignored, commands without errors are executed.  But only if “Script Debug Mode” is NOT checked (in the main “Development” menu or the Code Editor’s “Debug” menu).
Thank you!
David Epstein

From heather at livecode.com  Tue Nov 25 14:14:43 2025
From: heather at livecode.com (Heather Laine)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 19:14:43 +0000
Subject: New Create Beta Release
Message-ID: <86279043-B2AE-4DF2-A3D9-5E25EFFBDA4F@livecode.com>

Dear List Folks,

We're pleased to announce a substantial new release of LiveCode Create, which now includes the first iteration of Create Copilot. You can now code with trained AI assistance from within the Create platform, as well as working on your project using more traditional methods. No black box here, you can open and edits the scripts provided by Create Copilot, or directly tweak or add to the UI of your project. 

Learn more here:

https://livecode.com/blog/copilot-launch/

If you already have LiveCode Create, you can get this release by logging in to your account and downloading it if you have Native, or accessing https://preview.livecode.com if you have Web. 

If you'd like to get Create for the first time, I'm pleased to say we now offer monthly subscriptions: 

https://livecode.com/pricing

Enjoy!

Best Regards,

Heather

P.S. We also have a new website - but if you visited any of those links you'll have noticed that already.


Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com
Build Software You'll Never Outgrow

From admin at flexiblelearning.com  Wed Nov 26 04:31:55 2025
From: admin at flexiblelearning.com (Hugh Senior)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 09:31:55 -0000
Subject: GEDCOM anyone?
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A shot in the dark... Has anyone written a GEDCOM utility to export genealogy data? Asking before I embark on the mother of all routines!

Hugh Senior


From admin at flexiblelearning.com  Wed Nov 26 06:00:19 2025
From: admin at flexiblelearning.com (Hugh Senior)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 11:00:19 -0000
Subject: clipboardData["image"] by file reference
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I want to copy an image that is displayed by a filename reference...

on mouseUp
   set the clipboardData["image"] to url("binfile:"& the fileName of img 1)
end mouseUp

Why does this no longer work, please? I have tried various permutations of the dictionary syntax to no avail.

Thanks

Hugh Senior


From klaus at major-k.de  Wed Nov 26 06:16:04 2025
From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 12:16:04 +0100
Subject: clipboardData["image"] by file reference
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Hi Hugh,

> Am 26.11.2025 um 12:00 schrieb Hugh Senior via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> I want to copy an image that is displayed by a filename reference...
> 
> on mouseUp
>   set the clipboardData["image"] to url("binfile:"& the fileName of img 1)
> end mouseUp
> 
> Why does this no longer work, please? I have tried various permutations of the dictionary syntax to no avail.

works as exspected here:
LC 10.0.3 rc2, macOS 26.1

Same with LC Create DP9 on macOS.

> Thanks
> 
> Hugh Senior

Best

Klaus

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From jbv at souslelogo.com  Wed Nov 26 09:17:43 2025
From: jbv at souslelogo.com (jbv at souslelogo.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 09:17:43 -0500
Subject: socketTimeoutInterval and LC server
Message-ID: <59418c0c0399d2ee901afa9ad181cd6a@souslelogo.com>

Hi list,

I have a script on my on-rev account that sends curl requests
via an API to another server. The default value of socketTimeoutInterval
is 10000, but it's almost inpossible to predict how long it will take to
receive the response from each successive request (between 2 to 30 
seconds).
So I was wondering what is the maximum possible value for 
socketTimeoutInterval
without taking the risk of crashing anything...

Thank you in advance.
jbv

From sean at pidigital.co.uk  Wed Nov 26 10:35:25 2025
From: sean at pidigital.co.uk (Pi Digital)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 15:35:25 +0000
Subject: socketTimeoutInterval and LC server
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Hi jbv

If a socket response is taking more than 30s then there IS likely a problem with the connection. What conditions would you expect it to take longer for? 

Sean Cole
Pi Digital

> On 26 Nov 2025, at 14:17, jbv via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I have a script on my on-rev account that sends curl requests
> via an API to another server. The default value of socketTimeoutInterval
> is 10000, but it's almost inpossible to predict how long it will take to
> receive the response from each successive request (between 2 to 30 seconds).
> So I was wondering what is the maximum possible value for socketTimeoutInterval
> without taking the risk of crashing anything...
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> jbv
> 
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From jbv at souslelogo.com  Wed Nov 26 11:08:29 2025
From: jbv at souslelogo.com (jbv at souslelogo.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 11:08:29 -0500
Subject: socketTimeoutInterval and LC server
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 <415DB7FA-4F94-4E51-A118-A52D7ACFFD31@pidigital.co.uk>
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Actually, my script sends requests to a pod on which an AI vision model 
runs
on a GPU and spots some details in an image that is sent along with the
request. Some images are quite complex and therefore need to be at least
2000 px width, so that details don't get blurred.
I am using a pretty fast GPU and have optimized my prompt, but 
nevertheless
sometimes it can take 20 to 25 seconds to get the response from the AI.

Le 2025-11-26 10:35, Pi Digital via use-livecode a écrit :
> Hi jbv
> 
> If a socket response is taking more than 30s then there IS likely a 
> problem with the connection. What conditions would you expect it to 
> take longer for?
> 
> Sean Cole
> Pi Digital
> 
>> On 26 Nov 2025, at 14:17, jbv via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> I have a script on my on-rev account that sends curl requests
>> via an API to another server. The default value of 
>> socketTimeoutInterval
>> is 10000, but it's almost inpossible to predict how long it will take 
>> to
>> receive the response from each successive request (between 2 to 30 
>> seconds).
>> So I was wondering what is the maximum possible value for 
>> socketTimeoutInterval
>> without taking the risk of crashing anything...
>> 
>> Thank you in advance.
>> jbv
>> 
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From benr_mc at cogapp.com  Wed Nov 26 14:10:58 2025
From: benr_mc at cogapp.com (Ben Rubinstein)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 19:10:58 +0000
Subject: menubar confusion
Message-ID: <8601b149-4750-4a76-aeee-fd0a46c6237b@cogapp.com>

It's a _very_ long time since I've tried to make a proper desktop app. Please 
help me get my mind back into how menubars work.

Per the dictionary, the value of `the defaultMenubar` is a group reference, 
and the example given is
	set the defaultMenubar to the long ID of group 1 of stack "Menubars"

That makes sense, as it's always "reachable" as long as the owning stack is in 
memory.

But the dictionary says that `the menubar` is just the _name_ of a group.

So is that interpreted on the current card? And does that mean the menubar 
group must be every card of the stack - presumably with backgroundBehavior set?

And the dictionary also says that the menubar takes effect "when a stack is 
the active window". How does this interact with windows that has been opened 
with the 'palette' command? Do they reset the menubar?

And if we want to use a separate sub-stack to hold all our menus - as sort of 
implied by the example given for `the defaultMenubar` - do we need to abandon 
use of 'the menubar', and instead explicitly change `the defaultMenubar` as 
different stacks become active?

TIA for any tips and advice!

Ben

From admin at flexiblelearning.com  Thu Nov 27 09:44:22 2025
From: admin at flexiblelearning.com (Hugh Senior)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2025 14:44:22 -0000
Subject: clipboardData["image"] by file reference
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Message-ID: <000001dc5fac$52901460$f7b03d20$@flexiblelearning.com>

Thank you, Klaus.

It seems LC cannot parse an in-line binfile reference so a variable is needed...

on mouseUp
   get the fileName of img 1
   set the clipboardData["image"] to url("binfile:" & it)
end mouseUp

All working now.

Hugh


> Am 26.11.2025 um 12:00 schrieb Hugh Senior via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> I want to copy an image that is displayed by a filename reference...
> 
> on mouseUp
>   set the clipboardData["image"] to url("binfile:"& the fileName of img 1) 
> end mouseUp
> 
> Why does this no longer work, please? I have tried various permutations of the dictionary syntax to no avail.

works as exspected here:
LC 10.0.3 rc2, macOS 26.1

Same with LC Create DP9 on macOS.

Best

Klaus

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From klaus at major-k.de  Thu Nov 27 09:51:31 2025
From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2025 15:51:31 +0100
Subject: clipboardData["image"] by file reference
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 <000001dc5fac$52901460$f7b03d20$@flexiblelearning.com>
Message-ID: <50C599A8-4D15-4A35-AAB3-81ADA5964166@major-k.de>

Hi Hugh,

> Am 27.11.2025 um 15:44 schrieb Hugh Senior via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Thank you, Klaus.
> 
> It seems LC cannot parse an in-line binfile reference so a variable is needed...

see below, no variable neccessary for me!

> on mouseUp
>   get the fileName of img 1
>   set the clipboardData["image"] to url("binfile:" & it)
> end mouseUp
> 
> All working now.

I used your exact snippet and it worked for me:
----------------------------------
on mouseUp
 set the clipboardData["image"] to url("binfile:"& the fileName of img 1) 
end mouseUp
----------------------------------

> Hugh
> 
>> Am 26.11.2025 um 12:00 schrieb Hugh Senior via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>> I want to copy an image that is displayed by a filename reference...
>> on mouseUp
>>  set the clipboardData["image"] to url("binfile:"& the fileName of img 1) 
>> end mouseUp
>> 
>> Why does this no longer work, please? I have tried various permutations of the dictionary syntax to no avail.
> works as exspected here:
> LC 10.0.3 rc2, macOS 26.1
> Same with LC Create DP9 on macOS.

Best

Klaus

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https://www.major-k.de
https://www.major-k.de/bass
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