From heather at livecode.com  Thu Jun  5 05:50:04 2025
From: heather at livecode.com (Heather Laine)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 10:50:04 +0100
Subject: Testing the list
Message-ID: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>

How is the formatting today?

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com
Build Software You'll Never Outgrow

From MikeKerner at roadrunner.com  Thu Jun  5 08:41:50 2025
From: MikeKerner at roadrunner.com (Mike Kerner)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 08:41:50 -0400
Subject: Testing the list
In-Reply-To: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
References: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CADCoycOxMXDmreDuYMtnARZ-jZUcT1AGAcgE6ebaOsZrag0q9A@mail.gmail.com>

your email is fine.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 5:51 AM Heather Laine via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> How is the formatting today?
>
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager
> LiveCode Ltd
> www.livecode.com
> Build Software You'll Never Outgrow
>
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> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
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-- 
On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth
On the second day, God created the oceans.
On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
   and did a little diving.
And God said, "This is good."

From harrison at all-auctions.com  Thu Jun  5 09:52:07 2025
From: harrison at all-auctions.com (harrison at all-auctions.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 09:52:07 -0400
Subject: Testing the list
In-Reply-To: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
References: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
Message-ID: <0066293C-EE00-447F-B752-B9CCA473F88C@all-auctions.com>

Hi Heather,

It looks Ok for the little bit you sent.
Perhaps you should do a test with a
lot more text in it to see if something
makes it glitch.

Rick

> On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:50 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> How is the formatting today?
> 
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager
> LiveCode Ltd
> www.livecode.com
> Build Software You'll Never Outgrow
> 
> _______________________________________________
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
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From merakosp at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 10:28:52 2025
From: merakosp at gmail.com (panagiotis merakos)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 17:28:52 +0300
Subject: Testing the list
In-Reply-To: <0066293C-EE00-447F-B752-B9CCA473F88C@all-auctions.com>
References: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
 <0066293C-EE00-447F-B752-B9CCA473F88C@all-auctions.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CA+JfEq8ihEx=FtNL0trKNn3-DjPSjw=niYObXdJDVL_MBs8VAQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looks good to me.

Wondering how this message will show up.

Cheers,
Panos

On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 at 16:53, harrison--- via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Heather,
>
> It looks Ok for the little bit you sent.
> Perhaps you should do a test with a
> lot more text in it to see if something
> makes it glitch.
>
> Rick
>
> > On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:50 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode =
> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >=20
> > How is the formatting today?
> >=20
> > Heather Laine
> > Customer Services Manager
> > LiveCode Ltd
> > www.livecode.com
> > Build Software You'll Never Outgrow
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> > use-livecode mailing list
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your =
> subscription preferences:
> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
>

From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com  Thu Jun  5 11:01:12 2025
From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 15:01:12 +0000
Subject: Testing the list
In-Reply-To: 
 <CADCoycOxMXDmreDuYMtnARZ-jZUcT1AGAcgE6ebaOsZrag0q9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
 <CADCoycOxMXDmreDuYMtnARZ-jZUcT1AGAcgE6ebaOsZrag0q9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <32690B31-9433-4973-AA6A-DCE8BF762444@iotecdigital.com>

Yours is not. 

Bob S


> On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:41 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> your email is fine.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 5:51=E2=80=AFAM Heather Laine via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> How is the formatting today?
>> 
>> Heather Laine
>> Customer Services Manager
>> LiveCode Ltd
>> www.livecode.com
>> Build Software You'll Never Outgrow
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> use-livecode mailing list
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
>> subscription preferences:
>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
>> 
> 
> 
> --=20
> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth
> On the second day, God created the oceans.
> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
>   and did a little diving.
> And God said, "This is good."
> _______________________________________________
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
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From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com  Thu Jun  5 11:02:09 2025
From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 15:02:09 +0000
Subject: Testing the list
In-Reply-To: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
References: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
Message-ID: <DFB21488-C567-49FF-BC43-054612BA9E06@iotecdigital.com>

Looks good. 

Bob S


> On Jun 5, 2025, at 2:50 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> How is the formatting today?
> 
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager
> LiveCode Ltd
> www.livecode.com
> Build Software You'll Never Outgrow
> 
> _______________________________________________
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com  Thu Jun  5 11:07:59 2025
From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 15:07:59 +0000
Subject: Testing the list
In-Reply-To: <32690B31-9433-4973-AA6A-DCE8BF762444@iotecdigital.com>
References: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
 <CADCoycOxMXDmreDuYMtnARZ-jZUcT1AGAcgE6ebaOsZrag0q9A@mail.gmail.com>
 <32690B31-9433-4973-AA6A-DCE8BF762444@iotecdigital.com>
Message-ID: <EDD28A38-895F-4EFF-9841-C490A99FCF4B@iotecdigital.com>

Apparently neither is mine. 

Bob S


> On Jun 5, 2025, at 8:01 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Yours is not.=20
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:41 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <use-livecode at li=
> sts.runrev.com> wrote:
>> =20
>> your email is fine.
>> =20
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 5:51=3DE2=3D80=3DAFAM Heather Laine via use-liveco=
> de <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> =20
>>> How is the formatting today?
>>> =20
>>> Heather Laine
>>> Customer Services Manager
>>> LiveCode Ltd
>>> www.livecode.com
>>> Build Software You'll Never Outgrow
>>> =20
>>> _______________________________________________


From harrison at all-auctions.com  Thu Jun  5 11:14:32 2025
From: harrison at all-auctions.com (harrison at all-auctions.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 11:14:32 -0400
Subject: Testing the list
In-Reply-To: <EDD28A38-895F-4EFF-9841-C490A99FCF4B@iotecdigital.com>
References: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
 <CADCoycOxMXDmreDuYMtnARZ-jZUcT1AGAcgE6ebaOsZrag0q9A@mail.gmail.com>
 <32690B31-9433-4973-AA6A-DCE8BF762444@iotecdigital.com>
 <EDD28A38-895F-4EFF-9841-C490A99FCF4B@iotecdigital.com>
Message-ID: <85E34791-DBFD-475F-AE8C-CCE5CE9B6254@all-auctions.com>

Hi Bob,

Emails from you appear to be messed up.

Rick

> On Jun 5, 2025, at 11:07 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Apparently neither is mine.=20
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2025, at 8:01 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <use-livecode at li=
> sts.runrev.com> wrote:
>> =20
>> Yours is not.=3D20
>> =20
>> Bob S
>> =20
>> =20
>>> On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:41 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <use-livecode at l=
> i=3D
>> sts.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> =3D20
>>> your email is fine.
>>> =3D20
>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 5:51=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DAFAM Heather Laine via use=
> -liveco=3D
>> de <
>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> =3D20
>>>> How is the formatting today?
>>>> =3D20
>>>> Heather Laine
>>>> Customer Services Manager
>>>> LiveCode Ltd
>>>> www.livecode.com
>>>> Build Software You'll Never Outgrow
>>>> =3D20
>>>> _______________________________________________
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com  Thu Jun  5 13:10:13 2025
From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 17:10:13 +0000
Subject: Testing the list
In-Reply-To: <85E34791-DBFD-475F-AE8C-CCE5CE9B6254@all-auctions.com>
References: <B5D739BC-4E98-4F9B-93F5-3B93549BA12A@livecode.com>
 <CADCoycOxMXDmreDuYMtnARZ-jZUcT1AGAcgE6ebaOsZrag0q9A@mail.gmail.com>
 <32690B31-9433-4973-AA6A-DCE8BF762444@iotecdigital.com>
 <EDD28A38-895F-4EFF-9841-C490A99FCF4B@iotecdigital.com>
 <85E34791-DBFD-475F-AE8C-CCE5CE9B6254@all-auctions.com>
Message-ID: <3EF1CE7A-F694-40F4-A8EE-8312DD4959E3@iotecdigital.com>

Others too. I am using Apple Mail. 

Bob S


> On Jun 5, 2025, at 8:14 AM, harrison--- via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Emails from you appear to be messed up.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2025, at 11:07 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode =
> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> =20
>> Apparently neither is mine.=3D20
>> =20
>> Bob S
>> =20
>> =20
>>> On Jun 5, 2025, at 8:01 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode =
> <use-livecode at li=3D
>> sts.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> =3D20
>>> Yours is not.=3D3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> Bob S
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>>> On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:41 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode =
> <use-livecode at l=3D
>> i=3D3D
>>> sts.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> your email is fine.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 5:51=3D3D3DE2=3D3D3D80=3D3D3DAFAM Heather =
> Laine via use=3D
>> -liveco=3D3D
>>> de <
>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> How is the formatting today?
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> Heather Laine
>>>>> Customer Services Manager
>>>>> LiveCode Ltd
>>>>> www.livecode.com
>>>>> Build Software You'll Never Outgrow
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> =20
>> =20
>> _______________________________________________
>> use-livecode mailing list
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your =
> subscription preferences:
>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com  Thu Jun  5 13:10:13 2025
From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 17:10:13 +0000
Subject: tsNet and mail functions
Message-ID: <D0CDCD93-436C-4A68-A545-33B3F02EFECC@iotecdigital.com>

Hi all. I am going to risk a longer email. 

Modern mail servers are depricating Less Secure Apps and moving to the OAuth model. Are there any lessons or solutions for monitoring a mailbox from Livecode? tsNet fails to login. 

Bob S


From paul at researchware.com  Thu Jun  5 13:36:24 2025
From: paul at researchware.com (Paul Dupuis)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:36:24 -0400
Subject: macOS Sequoia (15.5..0) and permissions
Message-ID: <f91c5279-214c-4e2d-afa7-6647da08097d@researchware.com>

I know most macOS users have full admin of their computers, but in some 
of our users are students on university lab systems where permissions 
are restricted.

I have run into a problem where 'the detailed folders' is failing with 
an execution error "get: error in expression: (Line 2695, column 9)"
thePath is the path to a folder, including the folder. For example: 
/Users/Paul/Documents/My Research/Study123/Sources
'Sources' is a folder.
The pathTo function return the path to that folder, example: 
/Users/Paul/Documents/My Research/Study123

The problem code snippet is:

set the defaultFolder to pathTo(thePath) -- so in this example, 
defaultFolder is set to /Users/Paul/Documents/My Research/Study123
if there is a folder thePath then -- As there is a folder 
/Users/Paul/Documents/My Research/Study123/Sources, this is true
   get the detailed folders -- line 2695 error!
end if

The 'get the detailed folders' should have returned to me the detailed 
information for the folder 'Sources" (assuming that is the only folder 
in the Study123 folder)

This works where the user has full permissions
This has worked in the past where the has not had write permission to 
the target folder
This blew up under 15.5.0 (latest Sequoia update). Neither I, nor the 
poor student, know what the permissions were or how to find out. They 
may not even have access to the same computer the next time they use the 
lab. Of course, I could assume all lab computers are configured the 
same. However, the student is udner a deadline (like many student) and 
probably does not have time to troubleshoot this further as saving to a 
different location worked.

I can always enclose the 'get detailed folders' in a try...end try and 
trap the error, but I am wondering is anyone know what is going on? This 
is under LC 9.6.13 standalone.

If they don't have permission, I just want to warn them, so I can do it 
with a try..end try, but this all has me curious if Apple ever further 
sand boxing just broke another LC feature.

From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com  Thu Jun  5 16:45:38 2025
From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 20:45:38 +0000
Subject: macOS Sequoia (15.5..0) and permissions
In-Reply-To: <f91c5279-214c-4e2d-afa7-6647da08097d@researchware.com>
References: <f91c5279-214c-4e2d-afa7-6647da08097d@researchware.com>
Message-ID: <D54F96BA-AA03-4AB4-ABCB-73DD530533D0@iotecdigital.com>

Get Info by right-clicking on the filder. You can set the permission for that folder under Sharing and Permissions. But there may be some other issues involved with enhanced security features. 

Bob S


> On Jun 5, 2025, at 10:36 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I know most macOS users have full admin of their computers, but in some of our users are students on university lab systems where permissions are restricted.
> 
> I have run into a problem where 'the detailed folders' is failing with an execution error "get: error in expression: (Line 2695, column 9)"
> thePath is the path to a folder, including the folder. For example: /Users/Paul/Documents/My Research/Study123/Sources
> 'Sources' is a folder.
> The pathTo function return the path to that folder, example: /Users/Paul/Documents/My Research/Study123
> 
> The problem code snippet is:
> 
> set the defaultFolder to pathTo(thePath) -- so in this example, defaultFolder is set to /Users/Paul/Documents/My Research/Study123
> if there is a folder thePath then -- As there is a folder /Users/Paul/Documents/My Research/Study123/Sources, this is true
>   get the detailed folders -- line 2695 error!
> end if
> 
> The 'get the detailed folders' should have returned to me the detailed information for the folder 'Sources" (assuming that is the only folder in the Study123 folder)
> 
> This works where the user has full permissions
> This has worked in the past where the has not had write permission to the target folder
> This blew up under 15.5.0 (latest Sequoia update). Neither I, nor the poor student, know what the permissions were or how to find out. They may not even have access to the same computer the next time they use the lab. Of course, I could assume all lab computers are configured the same. However, the student is udner a deadline (like many student) and probably does not have time to troubleshoot this further as saving to a different location worked.
> 
> I can always enclose the 'get detailed folders' in a try...end try and trap the error, but I am wondering is anyone know what is going on? This is under LC 9.6.13 standalone.
> 
> If they don't have permission, I just want to warn them, so I can do it with a try..end try, but this all has me curious if Apple ever further sand boxing just broke another LC feature.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode