LC Built Apps held Hostage, Runtime execution rent - looked at FAQ

Curry Kenworthy curry at pair.com
Wed Dec 31 21:07:58 EST 2025


Mike Kerner:

 > i am so disappointed in the direction LC is choosing to go.

Yes - Thanks for speaking up again!
I was shocked at how your concerns were brushed away before.

A real fix is needed; not just emotional persuasion techniques,
presentations, personal favors, and threats to like it or else.

Not a personal, private account matter - globally flawed terms!
Window is closing to fix some LiveCode pricing/terms issues.

Compounding it -

Some people get tempted to throw other users, and new users,
under the bus if they might get a personal exception...
trying to shush or disrupt discussion and awareness.

Twin EULA problems -

Runtime kill switch = fragile Toy Apps.
Blank check terms = legal/financial minefield.

Meet the LiveCode Create EULA -
https://livecode.com/eula

I also need to thank you, Mike -

All year I was sick, and most days could not even do a web search.
Nor look around/read much. Or type. Had to rest completely.

Caught by the new LiveCode direction, and stuck while sick -
then you posted, similar to ...

 > we're down to two LC apps, and we're working on moving those
 > to other tools... we've deployed a couple of new apps in flutter,
 > and we're screwing around with swift and kmp for two more.

I bookmarked your post - Had to wait for a while.

On a better day, I literally right clicked 1 of those to search -
and slowly started reading on each tool. That really helped.

And look at me now - finally typing emails again!
God is good. No road blocks with Him.

Still recuperating, but this is progress.

 > i've previously posted on this topic, and the fees we pay,
 > annually, forsome of the other tools that we use,
 > and what we get for the money

Can't ignore it -

The most popular alternatives have come a long way.
Easier/better now. People are noticing.

People have been retooling elsewhere; no choice.

Very attractive, increasingly convenient choices -
Without a kill switch, blank check, or end user pricing headaches!
Freedom to actually Create anything you want to do. No limits.

But of course ...

I really enjoy LiveCode and the syntax - derived from HC/SC too.
Loyal users from HC/SC to LC hate to move on without a word.

That's not arguing; it's speaking up to benefit all and LiveCode!
We have been here a long time.

Either way, we have successfully sent a group message.
That helps LiveCode re-evaluate extreme plans.

LiveCode recently requested my feedback to help improve LC.
Glad to help. Easy to fix if LiveCode chooses.

Bright future / new year...
Happy Holy-days of Christ's Mass!

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy


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