LC Built Apps held Hostage, Runtime execution rent - looked at FAQ

Bob Sneidar bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com
Mon Dec 29 14:46:39 EST 2025


If you are calling me a shill, then go eff yourself. 

Bob S


> On Dec 29, 2025, at 10:47 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Bob Sneidar:
> > This has already been addressed long ago ad nauseam.
> 
> Bob = false. Kill switch was not discussed much, if any.
> 
> We have a right to understand and respond to basic facts -
> including the NEW version of LiveCode Create FAQ:
> 
> "Apps require active [LiveCode Create] licensing to run.
> If your license lapses, your apps will no longer be licensed
> and they will not continue to run."
> 
> https://livecode.com/faq
> 
> But several shills mistakenly try to suppress that,
> hoping for personal benefit; they are the new freeloaders.
> 
> Even brown nosing here, by ...
> trying to drive away paying users?
> 
> Yes - to shush and attack fully paying users who speak up
> on points that would benefit all and LiveCode!
> 
> SMH.
> 
> Folks who want to pay their way have to look realistically -
> Kill switch, legal blackholes, end user pricing flaws.
> 
> Not just me -
> 
> Riko Abadi:
> 
> > This means already-built apps are permanently dependent on ongoing
> > license renewal just to execute... Under the current terms, LiveCode
> > Create is not a viable option for serious, long-lived applications.
> 
> Rick:
> 
> > I sure hope the people at LC seriously reconsider what they are
> > doing immediately and change course! Just my 2 cents for the day.
> > P.S. Here’s the link for those who haven’t seen it:
> > https://livecode.com/faq
> 
> But it's not worth a huge effort, or shill attacks, because ...
> 
> Bob Sneidar:
> > There are other alternatives
> 
> Yes, there are!
> Without legal blackholes and end user pricing headaches.
> 
> But why do shills quickly push loyal users away?
> loyal users from HC, SC, to LC hate to move on without a word.
> 
> Window is closing to fix LiveCode pricing/terms issues.
> People have been retooling elsewhere; no choice.
> 
> For me, audits/blank check and kill switch will not fly.
> 
> Not a personal, private 'hush' matter - flawed terms!
> Read the LiveCode EULA and learn; legal blackhole.
> 
> https://livecode.com/eula
> 
> If shills and freeloaders decide, everyone loses...
> Folks who wanted to pay their way will have to move on.
> 
> Folks who expected better/more honest will be disappointed.
> Without them, who will pay the way?
> 
> 'Big fish' aren't blind.
> 
> I've donated my awareness effort in free public service here,
> not easy typing, not for personal benefit or brown nosing,
> with every chance of spiteful retaliation!
> 
> But I'm glad to speak up for the honest and realistic view.
> That is what counts. Hope this requested advice improves LiveCode.
> 
> Bright future / happy new year...
> Happy Holy-days of Christ's Mass!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Curry Kenworthy
> 
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