ChatGPT for LC scripting
Heriberto Torrado
htorrado at networkdreams.net
Wed Apr 9 08:27:34 EDT 2025
Is tom part of the team of this guys? https://mygiantbrain.com/
They also made a trained agent for ChatGpt for Livecode.
Best,
Hery
https://mygiantbrain.com/
On 4/8/25 21:10, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
> talk to tom glod. he trained a gpt model for lc
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 3:13=E2=80=AFPM Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm an avid AI user, and I'd like to share some of my experiences:
>>
>> I've achieved the best programming results using Gemini 2.5 Pro. (In my
>> opinion, it's currently much more powerful than models like ChatGPT-1o
>> or Claude 3.7 Sonnet). You can access Gemini 2.5 Pro for free via Google
>> AI Studio: https://aistudio.google.com/. You'll need to select the
>> Gemini 2.5 Pro model. For now, it's free to use and offers a very large
>> context window (up to 1 million tokens). If you hit processing limits or
>> want to start fresh, you can simply begin a new chat.
>>
>> However, when it comes to querying the AI about LiveCode, the results
>> are often disappointing. This seems largely due to the limited amount of
>> online documentation and examples available for LiveCode compared to
>> languages like Python, Golang, or C++.
>>
>> My experience using AI for developing Python, Flutter and Golang
>> applications suggests it's currently most effective for very small
>> projects. Once you surpass roughly 2,000 lines of code, I find that AIs
>> tend to introduce significantly more bugs. While you can mitigate this
>> somewhat by splitting the code into smaller chunks, I don't currently
>> see AI as a replacement for a human programmer.
>>
>> Furthermore, even if an AI can generate a small Golang, Python or
>> Flutter app, maintaining and scaling that code over the long term
>> becomes very difficult. This is where LiveCode shines, with its
>> significant advantages in development speed, simplicity, and exceptional
>> code readability.
>>
>> Honestly, at least for now, I don't perceive AI as a serious threat to
>> LiveCode development, but at the same time, AI is not very helpful with
>> Livecode.
>>
>> Best,
>> Hery
>>
>> On 3/9/25 06:43, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Hi Bob,
>>>
>>> What a beautiful experience, so true. As always, something like AI
>>> should be viewed as a surgical tool to be used only when necessary and
>>> not relied solely upon. It=E2=80=99s useful but it only really gets us =
> most of
>>> the way there. You still have to encapsulate it properly and adjust it
>>> to fully meet your requirements.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Sean Cole
>>> Pi Digital
>>>
>>>> On 7 Mar 2025, at 16:44, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
>>>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I was young (a long time ago) the company I was with hired a new
>>>> graphics designer. All he knew was the conventional method for
>>>> prepress and he designed all his art accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> When I told him about the new Digital Prepress he told me that it
>>>> still could not be done, because his professor at Orange Coast
>>>> college had told him that it was at least 10 years off.
>>>>
>>>> So I designed the next book cover and produced it using digital
>>>> prepress through a service bureau, which impressed him greatly. Now a
>>>> great deal f what he produces for publishing is done with software.
>>>> He never uses =E2=80=9Cart boards=E2=80=9D anymore because it simply i=
> sn=E2=80=99t necessary.
>>>> There aren=E2=80=99t many graphic artists left who actually understood=
> the
>>>> process of producing the film and plates for CMYK printing, which
>>>> involved underexposing or overexposing different elements of the
>>>> graphic layout in order to avoid thin white lines around objects
>>>> because the film or plates never aligned precisely.
>>>>
>>>> The knowledge is now almost completely lost, so that if the
>>>> technology of digital prepress is ever lost or unavailable, it=E2=80=
> =99s
>>>> doubtful anyone would know how or have the equipment to perform the
>>>> task in the old conventional way.
>>>>
>>>> I fear the same thing may end up happening with AI and not just with
>>>> programming. We already have the phenomenon of people not being able
>>>> to think for themselves, but simply believing what =E2=80=9Cexperts=E2=
> =80=9D tell
>>>> them is true about a given subject or issue. With the advent of AI, I
>>>> think we can expect this effect to increase dramatically.
>>>>
>>>> Artificial Intelligence is precicely that: Artificial. It=E2=80=99s re=
> ally
>>>> only a mask hiding the fact that real people are providing input to
>>>> train a recursive algorithm to favor one outcome over another. It=E2=
> =80=99s
>>>> just people saying, =E2=80=9CNot thus, but thus.=E2=80=9D
>>>>
>>>> Bob S
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