ChatGPT for LC scripting

[Mike Kerner]

talk to tom glod. he trained a gpt model for lc

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 3:13 PM Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I'm an avid AI user, and I'd like to share some of my experiences:
>
> I've achieved the best programming results using Gemini 2.5 Pro. (In my
> opinion, it's currently much more powerful than models like ChatGPT-1o
> or Claude 3.7 Sonnet). You can access Gemini 2.5 Pro for free via Google
> AI Studio: https://aistudio.google.com/. You'll need to select the
> Gemini 2.5 Pro model. For now, it's free to use and offers a very large
> context window (up to 1 million tokens). If you hit processing limits or
> want to start fresh, you can simply begin a new chat.
>
> However, when it comes to querying the AI about LiveCode, the results
> are often disappointing. This seems largely due to the limited amount of
> online documentation and examples available for LiveCode compared to
> languages like Python, Golang, or C++.
>
> My experience using AI for developing Python, Flutter and Golang
> applications suggests it's currently most effective for very small
> projects. Once you surpass roughly 2,000 lines of code, I find that AIs
> tend to introduce significantly more bugs. While you can mitigate this
> somewhat by splitting the code into smaller chunks, I don't currently
> see AI as a replacement for a human programmer.
>
> Furthermore, even if an AI can generate a small Golang, Python or
> Flutter app, maintaining and scaling that code over the long term
> becomes very difficult. This is where LiveCode shines, with its
> significant advantages in development speed, simplicity, and exceptional
> code readability.
>
> Honestly, at least for now, I don't perceive AI as a serious threat to
> LiveCode development, but at the same time, AI is not very helpful with
> Livecode.
>
> Best,
> Hery
>
> On 3/9/25 06:43, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > What a beautiful experience, so true. As always, something like AI
> > should be viewed as a surgical tool to be used only when necessary and
> > not relied solely upon. It’s useful but it only really gets us most of
> > the way there. You still have to encapsulate it properly and adjust it
> > to fully meet your requirements.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Sean Cole
> > Pi Digital
> >
> >> On 7 Mar 2025, at 16:44, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> >> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> When I was young (a long time ago) the company I was with hired a new
> >> graphics designer. All he knew was the conventional method for
> >> prepress and he designed all his art accordingly.
> >>
> >> When I told him about the new Digital Prepress he told me that it
> >> still could not be done, because his professor at Orange Coast
> >> college had told him that it was at least 10 years off.
> >>
> >> So I designed the next book cover and produced it using digital
> >> prepress through a service bureau, which impressed him greatly. Now a
> >> great deal f what he produces for publishing is done with software.
> >> He never uses “art boards” anymore because it simply isn’t necessary.
> >>
> >> There aren’t many graphic artists left who actually understood the
> >> process of producing the film and plates for CMYK printing, which
> >> involved underexposing or overexposing different elements of the
> >> graphic layout in order to avoid thin white lines around objects
> >> because the film or plates never aligned precisely.
> >>
> >> The knowledge is now almost completely lost, so that if the
> >> technology of digital prepress is ever lost or unavailable, it’s
> >> doubtful anyone would know how or have the equipment to perform the
> >> task in the old conventional way.
> >>
> >> I fear the same thing may end up happening with AI and not just with
> >> programming. We already have the phenomenon of people not being able
> >> to think for themselves, but simply believing what “experts” tell
> >> them is true about a given subject or issue. With the advent of AI, I
> >> think we can expect this effect to increase dramatically.
> >>
> >> Artificial Intelligence is precicely that: Artificial. It’s really
> >> only a mask hiding the fact that real people are providing input to
> >> train a recursive algorithm to favor one outcome over another. It’s
> >> just people saying, “Not thus, but thus.”
> >>
> >> Bob S
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