Livecode startup messages...

[Paul Dupuis]

Yes,

I figured that out earlier this week and just hadn't had time to post. 
It is some sort of Windows 11 issue and not on all Windows 11 systems. 
Still don't know what it is. The 3 printers on our office network are 
all HPs and I think all my drivers are up to date. I also have a couple 
of different PDF printer drivers installed (Microsoft's, Foxit's and one 
other)


On 5/8/2024 1:20 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
> this is not just a lc issue
> we use 4d, extensively, and every time a 4d client starts on windows, the
> same message appears
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:20 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Interesting. As I’ve mentioned I install and provide IT support for
>> copiers and printers. Ever since Windows 8 (I believe) Microsoft has been
>> providing built in drivers for these devices, and they use what is called a
>> WSD (Windows Service Daemon) port instead of a typical TCP/IP port.
>>
>> If you go to install a printer and you see a list of icons representing
>> the discovered printers on the network, NEVER EVER USE THEM! Manufacturers
>> will not support them, and they cause all kinds of issues. ALWAYS select
>> “The device I want isn’t listed” and use the standard TCP/IP method of
>> installing a printer, or better yet the manufacturer probably supplies an
>> executable either downloaded or on a CD ROM. Use that.
>>
>> Of course, that does not help LC devs who are deploying apps to end users
>> who cannot be told what to do.
>>
>> Bob S
>>
>>
>>> On May 3, 2024, at 2:33 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> There was a problem in the past where standalones were LC IDE, LC
>> Instaler and standalones were crashing on startup.
>>> This is what Panos wrote about it:
>>> We recently fixed a bug (affecting mainly Windows 11) where the LC
>>> installer, the LC IDE and Windows standalones were crashing on startup.
>> It
>>> turned out this was caused if some generic printer drivers were installed
>>> in the device, and installing the official printer drivers from the
>>> vendor's website prevented the crash. We had reports for Brother
>> printers,
>>> Epson and HP if I remember correctly.
>>>
>>> The fix we added did fix the crash, but in some cases caused a delay on
>>> startup, if the device still had the "generic" printer driver installed.
>>> <<
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe there is a regression in some way that LC now does not crash but
>> shows the messages.
>>> Could you try the following?
>>>
>>> 1. Open Windows Task Manager
>>> 2. Search for a process named "Spooler Subsystem app" or just "Print
>>> Spooler"
>>> 3. Force quit this process
>>>
>>> If this solves it, then it seems to be a regression in the new LC dp
>> builds.
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 03.05.2024 um 20:16 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
>>>> I had not searched the forums, but I just did for "Waiting for printer"
>> and "printer connections" and neither phrase turned up anything related to
>> the dialog that appears on startup (unfortunately). Maybe under another
>> search term, but the general term of "printer" returns 38 screens of forum
>> messages! Good suggestion though. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/3/2024 1:43 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>>>>> I think this has come up before, but I forget the resolution. Did you
>> search the forums?
>>>>> Bob S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 3, 2024, at 10:40 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>>> When LC 9.6.11 or 9.6.12rc1 starts up OR (more importantly to me)
>> Standalones build with either of those versions starts up, on Windows 11,
>> there is a dialog that appear stating "Waiting for printer connections..."
>>>>>> This dialog may appear on earlier versions - I forget if I had seen
>> it previously.
>>>>>> Is there some setting to prevent or hide this dialog? In my
>> standalone app, I have customers asking what is it and find it "annoying".
>>>>>>
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