unsubscribing

[Sean Cole]

The way I read it was that Doulas was just bored with the conversation and
not interested in having the messages pour into his inbox. So he has
unsub'd temporarily while we chit-chat about it then come back once the cat
in-fighting has gone away. He was upset with us, not the business model.
Like he says effectively, this is the "USE" livecode list, not the "Moan
About" forum ;) He's kinda right though, isn't he :/



On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 at 20:14, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Andre. As a dedicated Livecode user who has worked at Livecode and
> authored several great books about it, you understand the software and
> its community well. You must recognize that many of us are very
> frustrated by the new seat subscription model. The impact of these
> subscriptions is absolutely brutal for us.
>
> Many of us are not full-time programmers; Livecode allows us to create
> small apps without relying on them for our livelihood. How many people
> here actually make a full living from developing apps with Livecode? For
> many, Livecode is simply a tool to support our work and, at best,
> provides a small financial boost.
>
> In the 15 years I've used Livecode, I have earned exactly $4,500 from
> small commercial desktop apps. The rest of the apps I created have never
> been sold; I often gave them away to clients, colleagues, family, and
> acquaintances.
>
> No one at my workplace will pay for a Livecode license under the new
> conditions. Even in my small IT company in Spain, which I manage
> remotely, it will be impossible for me to provide my clients with the
> small apps that I typically include in my services. We are talking about
> micro-IT maintenance services that cost 200 to 300 Euros per month. How
> can I justify charging them an additional $150 per seat?
>
> With the new licensing model, typical users like me may disappear forever.
>
> I understand why Douglas is so mad.
>
> Best,
> Hery
>
> Best,
> Hery
>
> On 7/29/24 14:35, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote:
> > what a horrible tone. Also, the issue of licensing is quite impactful to
> > every developer here as it dictates how the move forward, hardless a
> > useless conversation.
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 at 18:37, Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am one of those "shadow" participants in the forum and have been for
> >> many,
> >> many years . only occasionally chiming in.  This whole licensing
> debacle is
> >> boring and useless to (I would seriously guess) the majority of us who
> look
> >> to this forum for meaningful and useful information.  I'm going to
> >> unsubscribe now and (maybe) rejoin once this nonsense has run it course.
> >> Have a good one!
> >>
> >> Douglas Ruisaard
> >>
> >>
> >>
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