Livecode Future

[Kevin Miller]

Thanks for sharing this Tom, really appreciate it.

Just one point. When you get to $1M in revenue your payments are half what you suggest I,e. $25K as the percentage steadily drops as your revenue increases. You can see an example PDF table in the FAQ under "How much are Application Payments?".

Kind regards, 

Kevin 

Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ 
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things 




On 24/07/2024, 17:08, "use-livecode on behalf of Tom Glod via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> on behalf of use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:


I want to add a couple of points about my own case / stance.


I have been with Livecode for about 11 years.
While I have not yet shipped a whole lot ...yet
I took all this time to work on my skills and to build tooling for myself
so that I can create small niche products extremely quickly and also large
products at a quick pace as well.


So in a very real sense I've been building income potential.
Income potential, which I will be joyfully executing on for the next decade
plus, with many different products.
I've spent MAYBE $3 or 4K on Livecode over those years (because I used the
community to build.)


So in my case, to me, I really have received much value from Livecode, as
Kevin said in the video.


To me, Livecode is asking, ...Tom, can you pay us 50k to make $1 million?
And they are promising an increasingly better platform in exchange, and
faster updates.
That leaves $950k for me, my family and my business.


I cannot speak on behalf of anyone else, and clearly for some this really
sucks.
I'm sorry for that and in no way am I saying that this is easy.


Thanks for listening


Tom


On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 10:55 AM Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:


> Included or not, your company is paying for the platform as a whole, per
> user, per month and some of that revenue will be going to Power Apps.
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> The fact that you aren’t specifically choosing to subscribe to it is very
> disappointing. I won’t get into a whole argument here but that strikes me
> as monopolistic. Microsoft have been in trouble for this sort of thing in
> the past. Unfortunately we won’t have time to wait for some sort of
> antitrust case to catch up.
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> Kind regards,
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> Kevin
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> Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com <mailto:kevin at livecode.com> ~ http://www.livecode.com/ <http://www.livecode.com/>
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> LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
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> From: Colin Kelly <ckelly5430 at gmail.com <mailto:ckelly5430 at gmail.com>>
> Date: Wednesday 24 July 2024 at 15:35
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>
> Cc: Kevin Miller <kevin at livecode.com <mailto:kevin at livecode.com>>
> Subject: Re: Livecode Future
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> Hi Kevin,
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> I see your argument but disagree with your premise, We don’t buy MS o365
> Business standard license for our users SO we can deploy PowerApps, we
> subscribe to 0365 for our users so they have access to business
> applications like Excel, Word, Outlook, Teams etc. the ability to deploy
> developed PowerApps to our users is a benefit of Microsoft’s licensing that
> we would already be using so not an additional cost
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> MS O365 is pretty much a standard across all business sectors.
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