Livecode Future

[Kevin Miller]

I'm sorry to hear this. You'll still gain access to anything that remains to be delivered from crowd funding.

I do want to dig into the economics of this a little more though. At a quantity of 180 users, PowerApps costs roughly 33% more per seat than we do! LiveCode, even *without* the (up to 10x) development speed increase Create is bringing, is so much more productive than PowerApps (you told us this yourself for your own use case). So its 33% cheaper, and massively faster... Sounds reasonable to me?

Kind regards, 

Kevin

Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ 
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things 




On 24/07/2024, 09:17, "use-livecode on behalf of Col Kelly via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> on behalf of use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:


Totally agree and find myself in the same position with 180+/- internal workers, we only use LC for rapid prototyping although we do have some utilities that were built with LC. 
I guess I’m going to be forced down the PowerApps route. 


Slightly annoyed that i’ve subscribed and been part of all the crowdfunded projects that never materialised or are still in dev. 


Col. 


Sent from my iPhone. 


> On 24 Jul 2024, at 01:01, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> It appears that under this licensing model, developers creating applications for internal company use—such as for a workforce of 100 employees—would still need to pay $15,520 even with the 30% discount applied. I hope I've misunderstood, but upon receiving the email about Livecode Create, I considered purchasing a license to permanently move away from the outdated "Community" version (we have a lot of silicon Macs). However, if I have to explain to my boss that each internal user of the Livecode-built app would cost $155.2, she would likely suggest investing that money in a Flutter course, Lazarus IDE or to develop a web site.
> 
> Hery
> 
>> On 7/23/24 18:32, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I'll start.
>> After reviewing Livecode's new direction and offer.
>> I feel very positive about this change.
>> Maybe in the future I will feel differently, but currently, as a solo dev,
>> even 2 or 3 devs, as I expand, it all is kind of in the range of reasonable.
>> The <= 5% tax hurts a bit, but its manageable.
>> If this is a model that creates better sustainability and faster dev
>> cycles for Livecode, and if thats really true ...
>> Then I want to be in full support of this model.
>> 
>> I was somewhat surprised (sorry honest) at how well the new direction was
>> explained. Great job on that.
>> I like the no-pressure offer. 2027 is a lot of heads up for people to
>> align their business model or to get off the platform.
>> I like the flexibility of the offer for different kinds of devs
>> 
>> Of course my review is based on my own situation and my own plans for the
>> future of my company MakeShyft.
>> I also work @ Canela, which is a hat I am not wearing at this moment.
>> Everyone's situation is different, and I can see some users not loving this
>> at all.
>> 
>> All the best, may we all prosper and have our dreams come true.
>> 
>> Tom
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