Late arrival to LiveCode Future (and possibly early leaver!)

Ben Rubinstein benr_mc at cogapp.com
Fri Aug 2 03:22:00 EDT 2024


I've been away, in various senses, and only just read about all this.

I have enormous respect for Kevin and LiveCode.

I've been using the product since it was Metacard, and Revolution (as it was 
then) was an enormous upgrade. The first bug I reported in the quality control 
centre was over 20 years ago (was there another system before then? I don't 
recall anymore). (And indeed the 64th report I made, marked as CONFIRMED but 
still not actioned, that I'd still like, was reported over 20 years ago... 🤨).

I've used it to make tools for myself, a lot; tools for my colleagues a bit; 
tools for clients a bit. Mostly now it's tools for myself, which very rarely 
get built into standalones; but I still maintain a few tools for clients.

As the world developed over the decades, I feared for Kevin's company, 
whatever it was variously called. I felt that they were pursuing an almost 
impossible mission, maintaining and extending an extremely niche language 
across multiple platforms - having to persuade potential clients to buy a 
language before they could try to persuade them to buy a product. I supported 
most or all of the various fundraisers, sometimes with my company's money but 
more often with my own, even for developments I'm not interested in like HTML 
and Xavvi; in solidarity. I'm sorry that the open source experiment didn't 
work out, I'm sorry that the Filemaker idea didn't work out.

I am frankly surprised, and deeply impressed, that they have survived this 
long. It is a tribute to their tenacity and agility.

They have the right to take the company and product in whatever direction they 
think will produce the best result, and I wish them all the best luck in the 
world.

Having said all that:

- Create is not for me.

- I'll keep using Classic while I can

- Please put everything we to need know in text - I can't watch videos*

- Three things I don't yet know:
    - Is Classic changing in any way - e.g. will standalones phone home?
    - Classic supported to 2025 - is that Jan 1 2027, or Dec 31 2027?
    - When Classic goes EOL, will it stop working, or just not receive updates 
for new OS, app store rules etc?
	
Thanks and all the best,

Ben


* doc hawk wrote (01/08/2024):
 > You say the as if expecting someone to view a video to get information 
wasn’t an act of Evil . . . :)

- and probably against DDA/ADA/EA



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