Deployment: a plea/opportunity

[Mark Smith]

+1, 

I totally agree this is really important (and really hard to keep up with). But Apple should take some of the responsibility for this. With the resources at their disposal they should be able to create a simpler and easier way to execute deployment without sacrificing security and authenticity. 

Very well said. I should add that I have also been using Kee Nethery’s instructions for signing Mac apps and it has been a godsend. I have not quite yet gotten to the point of deploying to the App Store (with it) but that will be the next step.

Mark


> On 13 Oct 2023, at 7:49 pm, William Prothero via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I second (3rd and 4th too) Richard's plea. Deployment is a killer.
> Bill
> 
> William A. Prothero, PhD
> Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science
> University of California, Santa Barbara
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We see it here in this list. We see it in the forums. We see it wherever app deployment is discussed:
>> 
>> OS requirements for packaging/stapling/signing apps are onerous.
>> 
>> At the edge of, and sometimes exceeding, being prohibitively so.
>> 
>> There's no point in making a standalone if you can't ship it.
>> 
>> If pro devs with decades of experience struggle with this, newcomers will run screaming.
>> 
>> SIMPLIFYING DEPLOYMENT IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
>> 
>> Pardon the all-caps. I rarely use them. But this is important.
>> 
>> Simplifying deployment is more important than "AI".
>> Simplifying deployment is more important than "nocode".
>> 
>> It is the single biggest pain point.
>> 
>> And so it is the single biggest opportunity.
>> 
>> Fulfill the promise of "Everyone can code": focus on simplifying deployment.
>> 
>> Step 1: Acquire Matthias' great tool.
>> 
>> Step 2: Enhance it for current requirements across platforms.
>> 
>> Step 3: Look for every opportunity to further simplify the process, and take it, at least one more simplification with each new build.
>> 
>> This is important. It really is.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> And no, web export will not magically save things.  Even when that becomes truly production-ready, it's only for web apps.  Not everything needs to be a web app.
>> 
>> There are a hundred ways to make web apps.
>> 
>> There are few ways to make cross-platform native apps.
>> 
>> And almost none that rival what LC can do on the desktop.
>> 
>> Play into strengths.  Make native deployment the best it can be.
>> 
>> When that's done, only then resume work on more peripheral features.
>> 
>> --
>> Richard Gaskin
>> Fourth World Systems
>> 
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