Anyone any experience with Livecode under Ventura?

Geoff Canyon gcanyon at
Thu Nov 10 13:40:52 EST 2022

I regard it as a choice of risks -- I'm lazy about backups since...I was
going to say the '90s, but really it's forever. Thankfully I've never had a
drive go bad, but  I have written several novels, and I now have none of
them except as memories: one went away with an iMac hard drive I didn't
copy properly when I retired it, one went away with a zip drive, one went
away with 3 inch floppies, and one went away with 5 inch floppies (and one
went away with greenbar paper). I think my odds are better using a cloud
service than my own efforts at maintaining things.


On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 2:32 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode at> wrote:

> FYI I NEVER am going to consolidate all my documents in iCloud. That's
> like hanging a copy of all my keys in the community center that's open 24
> hours a day to everyone. One day someone is going to lock the doors...
> Bob S
> On Nov 8, 2022, at 13:22 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at<mailto:use-livecode at>>
> wrote:
> I upgraded to Ventura over a week ago. No problems so far with one
> exception: the OS suggested that I consolidate everything onto iCloud for
> universal access and backups. I did so. That resulted in oddities like
> cmd-shift-D now opening iCloud/Desktop instead of something in my home
> directory. Or more accurately, there *is* a "Desktop" folder in my home
> directory that appears not to be an alias, but is invisible?
> Anyway, doing this caused the same thing to happen for the Documents
> folder. LiveCode apparently can't find the invisible folder, so e.g. it
> defaulted back to the copy of Navigator included with LiveCode -- which is
> ancient, no one should use it -- instead of the copy in ~/Documents/My
> Livecode/Plugins.
> So far, to fix it I hit cmd-shift-period in the Finder. That shows
> invisible files. I'm sure there's a way to un-invisible a folder, and
> hopefully that will fix the issue without causing any issues with what
> Ventura is trying to do with iCloud.
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