A question about the compiler to come

Mark Smith marksmithhfx at gmail.com
Sat Mar 5 01:14:55 EST 2022


I also asked about building widgets from LC script. The response was, this could be a step along that path. 

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> On Mar 4, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> It's nice that aCompileIt!/Double-XX replacement is finally coming to
> LiveCode, maybe, but it is pretty expensive, at $499/year.
> The old timers may remember both of those products, from Heizer Software,
> allowed you to compile HyperCard stacks (and build XCMD's and XFCN's).
> We will see how smooth the path will be. I did post $500, but I think it
> will be a rocky transition.
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 8:19 PM Tom Glod via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I meant to include link to this:
>> https://livecode.com/script-compiler-project-page/
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 8:13 PM Tom Glod <tom at makeshyft.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sean, one the page for the compiler project and Kevin talks about the
>>> nature of Livecode being interpreted ..... currently the script in memory
>>> is just obfuscated, and a sufficiently motivated person or group of
>> people
>>> could eventually find what they want to find.  script passwords are
>> useful
>>> too, but also have their limit.
>>> 
>>> "By compiling scripts fully, standalones become even more secure. We’ve
>>> put a lot of work into making standalones secure at present but there are
>>> still limitations on the existing approach that are fundamental to how an
>>> interpreter like LiveCode operates. Compiled code does not leave any
>> trace
>>> of the original script text."
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 5:22 PM Sean Cole via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Tom
>>>> What security imp[lications do you perceive it to overcome?
>>>> 
>>>> Sean
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 21:07, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Pardon my lingo .... but this is f#%%ing huge!!!! Just last week, I
>> was
>>>>> thinking about the nature of livecode and that it comes with some
>> pretty
>>>>> profound security implications.
>>>>> I'm sSuper happy to see this machine code compiler coming to livecode.
>>>>> This is likely to directly influence the amount of sleep I get in this
>>>>> upcoming decade of work :)
>>>>> Great decision by the team to go ahead with this.
>>>>> (y)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 3:03 PM Tom Glod <tom at makeshyft.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Interesting.
>>>>>> I cannot find  this email from Kevin, can someone please forward it
>>>> to me
>>>>>> or direct me to where I can read it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 10:10 AM Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
>>>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> According to Kevin’s email:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Would this script compiler work on all platforms?
>>>>>>> All platforms will benefit. Code will run faster and readable
>> scripts
>>>>>>> will be removed whatever platform you are targeting.
>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2022, at 9:33 AM, francois.chaplais via use-livecode <
>>>>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You probably have received some mail asking for funding
>> concerning
>>>> a
>>>>>>> compiler to come.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like to know if this compiler can target MacOS/ARM
>>>> processor
>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the desktop.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> François
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