Message box failure in 10.0.0?

Paul Dupuis paul at researchware.com
Mon Feb 21 08:20:59 EST 2022


We're tracking down a Big Sur "bug/feature" that I don't have a recipe 
stack for yet, but I'll explains as it *might* be related?

We've found that if a stack is internal to the .app under Big Sur (and 
presumably Monterey) that has a video player, the video in the player 
plays and pauses normally (i.e the UI is responsive to any messages to 
the player or menus that control the player). i.e it behaves as expected 
- normally.

However, if the player is in a LOCAL stack, but loaded from OUTSIDE the 
.app package (say from the desktop or elsewhere in the Applications 
folder, but outside the BUNDLE), then when the video is played, the UI 
becomes non-responsive until the video is finished playing.

We have seen other issues relating to file and folder actions that FAIL 
under Catalina and up if performed from a loaded external stack but work 
if loaded from a substack as part of the .app build. (Stacks in the app 
bundle, but external to the .app standalone may work - we've not tested)

We think this is due to Apple's permission scheme under Catalina and 
above and how it tries to detect resource access in real time and 
perhaps something about the stack being external sets the permissions 
system off.

I mention it in the unlikely case you are loading a external stack prior 
to your message box tests.


On 2/21/2022 2:16 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
> Thanks, looks like it's just me. Glad I asked here first, but I have 
> no idea what might be causing it. .
>
> -- 
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On February 20, 2022 11:13:33 PM Terry Judd via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Just downloaded and tested and it works ok for me on Monterey.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>> From: use-livecode <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> on behalf 
>> of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
>> Date: Monday, 21 February 2022 at 3:26 pm
>> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
>> Cc: J. Landman Gay <jacque at hyperactivesw.com>
>> Subject: Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0?
>> Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned I'm on Mac OS X Big Sur.
>>
>> -- 
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jacque at hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software           | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> On February 20, 2022 6:21:01 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> These are working for me in the message box under LC 10.0.0dp2 (64bit)
>>> under Windows 10
>>>
>>> On 2/20/2022 6:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> I'm trying out LC 10.0.0dp2 and the message box doesn't seem to be
>>>> working. I'm just checking here before I report it, in case it's just
>>>> me. None of the following work, the message box doesn't error but no
>>>> response appears:
>>>>
>>>> put the number of cds
>>>> put the number of cds of this stack
>>>> put the number of cards of stack "mystack"
>>>> the rect of stack "mystack"
>>>> edit script of <control>
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> This works sometimes:
>>>> set the rect of this stack to <coords>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not positive but it seems that "put" isn't working but "set" does.
>>>> Maybe.
>>>>
>>>> Also, keyboard shortcuts do not open the script editor, nor do
>>>> contextual menus show when Cmd-Control-Shift clicking. The only way I
>>>> can currently get to scripts is via the property inspector button or
>>>> the Objects menu. Cmd-opt-click doesn't open scripts of controls, and
>>>> since those aren't in the Object menu I need to use the property
>>>> inspector since typing "edit script of btn <whatever" in the message
>>>> box does nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I've double-checked the Messages button in the toolbar and toggled it
>>>> a few times, but no change. I tested on a couple of stacks in case it
>>>> was stack-related.
>>>>
>>>> Just me?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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