Sample stacks / revOnline [was: Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition]

Roger Guay irog at mac.com
Thu Sep 30 13:50:40 EDT 2021


This is really nice and fast, Alex. Thanks again for doing this as I’ve always felt that LC’s Sample Stacks is a great and often overlooked resource save for it’s interface. I note that "Log In" and "Sign Up" do not work. Is there any value in those items?

Roger

> On Sep 30, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm ... not sure why.
> 
> Easy way : https://www.tweedly.org/Downloads/samplestacks.livecode
> 
> Or: start the IDE, and  in the toolbar (4th or so from the right) is "Sample Stacks".
> 
> Then
> 
>  - select "View as: List"
> 
>  - select "All" on left hand side
> 
>  - select "Sort by: Date"
> 
>  - then reverse order the sort - and it's the most recent one !!
> 
> 
> Or - select "Plugin" in the tags column (5th one down), then type "sample" in the search box and hit "Go"
> 
> Alex.
> 
> 
> On 30/09/2021 16:17, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote:
>> This sounds absolutely wonderful, Alex, except I can’t find it as you described.
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 30/09/2021 15:02, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> On 06/09/2021 15:14, Kevin Miller via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Upgrading this could be a very useful project. There is a lot of content in there but it has the issues you list.
>>> So I had a look at what could be done just within the IDE for revonline. There's an old joke about a tourist in Ireland who realizes she(*) is lost, and ask for directions from an old farmer at the side of the road. "Well", says he, "if I wanted to go there, I wouldn't start from here."
>>> 
>>> I found the revonline scripts rather complex, and I couldn't easily see how to solve the issues mentioned previously, in that context. And the bottom line is that it's not a complex problem that needs to be solved. The login / register / upload features all work just fine - the problems are with the searching / browsing / filtering, and are generally related to either (very) poor performance or unclear UI.
>>> 
>>> In the end, I just couldn't produce worthwhile improvements, so instead I wrote a plugin that handles the searching / filtering / browsing / downloading parts, and which omits the login/upload parts entirely.
>>> 
>>> It can be downloaded from "Sample Stacks" in the IDE toolbar (it's called "Sample Stacks" and is tagged as IDE and Plugin). Install as a plugin in the usual way.
>>> 
>>> UI is very similar to the existing IDE version - simplified a bit.
>>> 
>>>  - search box automatically (and immediately) updates as you type, so the "Go" button was removed
>>> 
>>> - everything happens in < 1 second, so the progress bar was removed.
>>> 
>>>  - the grid/list choice was removed (the old 'list' stye was hard to use or understand)
>>> 
>>>  -  tags in the left-hand box are alphabetized
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>>>  - the grid is a single long scrolling group, rather than being paged and scrolled
>>> 
>>> There is one issue I haven;t tracked down yet - sometimes the scrolling using mousepad doesn't work initially; scrolling with the scrollbar seems to be enough to "revive" it.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you try it and have any problems or suggestions.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Alex.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (*) "she" is not sexist - had it been a man he would never have admitted to being lost and so would never have asked the question :-)
>>> 
>>> 
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