LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

Mark Waddingham mark at
Wed Sep 8 12:09:28 EDT 2021

On 2021-09-08 16:48, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote:
>> It requires an explicit '...':
> Ahah! Not being a javascripter, I completely missed that, and thought
> you were just omitting some text for clarity!
> [Sidenote: what idiot decided to use ellipsis as an operator?? And not
> even the ellipsis character, but three dots???].

Well the heritage of 'triple dots' for such things goes back to C - and 
I think the general idea is that its 'and the rest' (its used to mark 
variadic functions there).

In terms of using it as the operator in this case:

   foo a, b, ... tFoo
      => call foo with parameters a, b, 'and the rest' from tFoo

The reason why it isn't the ellipsis character is because it is 
generally advised to ensure that all core syntax of a language can be 
expressed in ASCII (for the antithesis of this idea - see APL!)

>> Interesting your missing of the all important operator being required 
>> reminds
>> of a mistake I did make way back when I added the ability to use a 
>> sequence
>> array as an array index...
>>    put tArray[tFoo] into tBar -- evaluates as tArray[1][2]
> What the... ? [insert joke here - I wrote that without realising what
> I'd done...]. I had no idea this facility existed. Is it documented
> anywhere?

I'm pretty sure you were one of the people who motivated it (the other 
definitely being Trevor)...

It's definitely come up on the use-list before :D

It has been in the engine for years - maybe since 4.x or 5.x? The 
addition was more than likely buried in the release notes though...

> Just to be clear, because the example below is ambiguous, given
>       put "a" into tFoo[1]
>       put "b" into tFoo[2]
> would
>       put tArray[tFoo] into tBar
> evaluate as
> 	tArray["a"]["b"]
> or
> 	tArray[1][2]
> ?

The former - if an array is encountered in an index, and is a sequence, 
the ordered sequence of values derived from the sequence is used as 
extra components of the path. Indeed, this happens recursively IIRC - 
i.e. if you have ['a', ['b', 'c'], 'd'] then the array path would be 

Warmest Regards,


Mark Waddingham ~ mark at ~
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