Smooth scrolling
Richard Gaskin
ambassador at fourthworld.com
Mon Feb 1 22:10:40 EST 2021
David Epstein wrote:
> My impression is that a LiveCode field scrolls less smoothly than
> a comparable field in some other programs, such as MS Word and
> Scrivener. If I paste about 25,000 words into a word wrapped
> scrolling field, and then drag the scrolling thumb up and down
> there is much more jumpiness than I see when I do the same thing
> to the same text in those other programs. (LC 9.6 on Mac OS 10.12.6).
> Do others see the same thing? Does anyone know the underlying cause
> of this, or a remedy?
Nice to hear the name Scrivener. Blount did some good rethinking of how
words are managed when he came up with that app.
In the olden days I remember being impressed with how smoothly LC
scrolled vs things like Word, which wasn't all that surprising given
that LC buffers the whole field in RAM while Word pages from disk.
A lot's changed since then. Not only have SSDs taken over to narrow the
gap, but I no longer have a copy of Word to compare anything to. :)
But I did just do a quick test of LC v9.6.2rc2 vs LibreOffice Write on
Ubuntu 18.04, using Kafka's Metamorphosis to get a reasonably close
number of words to your test (Gutenberg Project RTF is 25,180 words:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/5200/5200-r.rtf ).
Very different setup of course, but FWIW LC and LibreOffice are quite
close in scrolling, though LC seems noticeably smoother.
Of course Ubuntu and macOS couldn't be more different from top to
bottom, with different font managers, buffering APIs, compositors, etc.,
so while it was easy for me to do this quick test it's almost entirely
useless.
What might be nice would be someone with good knowledge of Apple
low-level tools, similar to the ones we see for Android or to some
degree strace, where graphical UI stuff can be profiled so we can see
what Word and LC are doing differently.
It might also be worth setting the field's layerMode to "scrolling" and
the stack's compositorType to "CoreGraphics" to see if that improves things.
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Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Systems
Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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