Help! I'm stuck

[Brian Milby]

It would be a separate application, but would still be called from the IDE like today.  One difference is that as a separate process it would not disrupt the current session inside the IDE.

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> On Apr 8, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> When you say a separate process, do you mean have the standalone builder as
> a separate application from the IDE? Why could it not be accomplished in
> the IDE where it is more convenient?
> 
> Handling it within the IDE process was fine as long as the only thing
>> the Standalone Builder did was bind a copy of the engine to a copy of
>> the stack file.
>> 
> 
> Forgive my lack of knowledge, but when we compile it to an application for
> different platforms, what are the differences from one platform build to
> another, particularly regarding where it is just a stack file bound to the
> engine and the other way(s) not listed here?  I'm genuinely interested.
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 17:43, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Standalone building needs to be moved to a separate process.
>> 
>> Handling it within the IDE process was fine as long as the only thing
>> the Standalone Builder did was bind a copy of the engine to a copy of
>> the stack file.
>> 
>> But today, building a standalone means deep modifications to the stack
>> file, and this has resulted in multiple successive layers of knock-on
>> effects where design complications are needed to compensate for design
>> complications put in place to compensate for earlier design complications.
>> 
>> The end result of attempting to build standalones within the current IDE
>> process is not merely cumbersome, but disruptive, confusing, and even
>> requires CODE CHANGES from EVERY USER to compensate even further just
>> for the build sequence.
>> 
>> LC has gone from the simplest way to build apps to something no less
>> onerous than most, and more confusing than many.
>> 
>> Standalone building needs to be moved to a separate process.
>> 
>> With that, LC can begin the return journey back on its path to the
>> simplest way to build apps.
>> 
>> --
>>  Richard Gaskin
>>  Fourth World Systems
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola wrote:
>> 
>>> I never built a non-mobile standalone for the first 5 years of using
>>> LC. For a mobile build nothing gets closed and gets built from the
>>> stack(s) files on disk. What a surprise I got when I built my first
>>> desktop standalone. I initially thought that something was very wrong
>>> with the IDE and restarted.
>>> After some searches I found that this is the correct behavior??? I
>>> guess there is a reason for closing the stack(s) but I find it very
>>> odd indeed.
>>> 
>>> Ralph DiMola
>> 
>> 
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