Is the DateFormat read only?

[J. Landman Gay]

You can get the time zone, or at least the zone offset, by using "the 
internet date".

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On October 29, 2020 8:21:46 AM Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
<use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I understand it, but the Dictionary is misleading and in one case actually 
> wrong: when it says the time form gives the seconds - it doesnt. You 
> need to use the long time, at least so it seems to me. I have submitted a 
> bug report.
>
> I also thought that I could use the ToUniversalTime function, but that 
> assumes you already know the time zone. Although LC has a Time Zone 
> library, I havent found any documentation explaining how an app can find 
> out which Time Zone its actually in. In fact my app doesnt care that 
> much, so will stick to UTC.
>
> The documentation around all this needs a bit of tidying up, IMHO.
>
> Graham
>
>> On 29 Oct 2020, at 12:07, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you only use a date and  convert it, dateItems will assume the time to 
>> be midnight on that particular date.
>>
>> Tore
>>
>>> 29. okt. 2020 kl. 12:04 skrev Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
>>>
>>> Just FYI, I think the dictionary is wrong or misleading in respect of what 
>>> the dateItems does. If you script this in the LC Message Box:
>>>
>>> put the date into t1
>>> convert t1 to dateItems
>>> put t1
>>>
>>> You get, e.g.
>>> 2020,10,29,0,0,0,5
>>>
>>>
>>> but if you script
>>>
>>> put the english time into t1
>>> convert t1 to dateItems
>>> put t1
>>>
>>> You get e.g.
>>> 2020,10,29,11,40,0,5
>>>
>>> i.e if you specify the date, you only get the date; but if you specify the 
>>> time, you get the date thrown in. I could not deduce this from the 
>>> Dictionary, but maybe I am just poor at reading what it says.
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>> On 29 Oct 2020, at 09:29, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>>>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tore - I had forgotten the existence of dateItems. That of course 
>>>> will do the trick. BTW I was trying to create dates in standard UTC format, 
>>>> and now I can.
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>>> On 28 Oct 2020, at 23:18, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode 
>>>>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can convert any given date to dateItems. Then you can use dateItems to 
>>>>> present the date in any format you like. A date converted to dateItems will 
>>>>> give you the following list of items:
>>>>>
>>>>> the year
>>>>> the month number
>>>>> the day of the month
>>>>> the hour in 24-hour time
>>>>> the minute
>>>>> the second
>>>>> the numeric day of the week where Sunday is day 1, Monday is day 2, and so 
>>>>> forth
>>>>> All according to the Dictionary.
>>>>>
>>>>> To be sure that any valid date format is recognized as a date when you read 
>>>>> in the date you will like to convert, it is best to ask for the system date 
>>>>> or set the useSystemDate to true, as this will make all valid date formats 
>>>>> convert to dateItems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Tore Nilsen
>>>>>> 28. okt. 2020 kl. 22:58 skrev Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>>>>>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quick test seems to show that the DateFormat cant be changed by a set 
>>>>>> command.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How then can I force a date to be in a given format? Im really thinking of 
>>>>>> the difference between US and European dates, i.e
>>>>>>
>>>>>> d/m/y versus m/d/y
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously for some types of use, an LC program should be able to force the 
>>>>>> format for consistencys sake, regardless of where in the world its being run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can it be done?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graham
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