Object naming
scott at elementarysoftware.com
scott at elementarysoftware.com
Tue Jul 28 04:18:22 EDT 2020
So Alex, the takeaway here seems to be that once you name your child objects… “now it’s too late.”
While reading this out aloud, I taught my classes of 2nd and 3rd graders to say, “Noooooo” after the second line. And I usually paused to let the class finish Oliver Boliver’s name.
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Scott Morrow
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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
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> Consider a simplified problem statement:
>
> You have two objects of the same type in a container, and you want to tell them apart but had given them the same name.
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>
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> Too Many Daves
> by Dr. Seuss
>
> Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave
> Had twenty-three sons and she named them all Dave?
> Well, she did. And that wasn't a smart thing to do.
> You see, when she wants one and calls out, "Yoo-Hoo!
> Come into the house, Dave!" she doesn't get one.
> All twenty-three Daves of hers come on the run!
> This makes things quite difficult at the McCaves'
> As you can imagine, with so many Daves.
> And often she wishes that, when they were born,
> She had named one of them Bodkin Van Horn
> And one of them Hoos-Foos. And one of them Snimm.
> And one of them Hot-Shot. And one Sunny Jim.
> And one of them Shadrack. And one of them Blinkey.
> And one of them Stuffy. And one of them Stinkey.
> Another one Putt-Putt. Another one Moon Face.
> Another one Marvin O'Gravel Balloon Face.
> And one of them Ziggy. And one Soggy Muff.
> One Buffalo Bill. And one Biffalo Buff.
> And one of them Sneepy. And one Weepy Weed.
> And one Paris Garters. And one Harris Tweed.
> And one of them Sir Michael Carmichael Zutt
> And one of them Oliver Boliver Butt
> And one of them Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate ...
> But she didn't do it. And now it's too late.
>
> --
> Richard Gaskin
> Fourth World Systems
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>> On 27/07/2020 16:33, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
>>> There are many ways to refer to things. The simplest is to use unambiguous names for things that matter.
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>> Is there an unambiguous name in this case ? And if so, what is it :-) ?
>> A group "A" contains a rectangle "R", and a (sub)group "B". "B" also contains a rectangle "R". (btw - "B" also may contain a subgroup "C", and it too will have a rectangle "R", and ....).
>> There is an unambiguous name for the 'most nested' "R", but there doesn't seem to be for the other "R"s. I had expected (or perhaps just hoped) that using a long name would first try to find an exact match, and if that failed it would then find the closest inexact match - but that sadly was just a hope.
>> I could (and probably will) use IDs but that doesn't work for duplicating the group - you need to either go in and adjust a script / custom property OR have the group's script find the IDs.
>> Or - am I'm missing something ?
>> Alex.
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