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From jjs at krutt.org Wed Jan 1 04:19:46 2020 From: jjs at krutt.org (Jjs) Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:19:46 +0100 Subject: Happy New Year! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DCB9D0E-D414-400E-B797-FA34FCD51185@krutt.org> Wishing everyone a healthy and fantastic new year! Make it great! Happy coding! Regards, Sphere Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode schreef op 31 december 2019 20:39:36 CET: >I would like to import an SVG that has multiple paths and which two >colors. Using Illustrator or Inkscape, merge compound path make them >all the same color > >class="cls-3" >d="M73.6,129.2c-.3,10.9-.5,27.4-.5,49.3V180c-1.7.1-4.3.2-7.8.2l-2-.2v-2.2c0-.1.1-8.5.2-25.3.2-10.1.1-18.5-.2-25.2a16.43,16.43,0,0,1,6-1l4.4.1v2.8Z"/>class="cls-3" >d="M112.1,180H101.6a272.79,272.79,0,0,1-19.9-52.3l9.4-1.9c4.4,18.5,9.7,33.3,15.7,44.3,6.1-11,11.3-25.8,15.7-44.3l9.4,1.9A262.07,262.07,0,0,1,112.1,180Z"/>class="cls-3" >d="M169.9,180.8c-.7-4.3-1.7-8.7-2.9-13.3H141.2c-1.2,4.6-2.1,9-2.8,13.3l-10.3-1.6a95.11,95.11,0,0,1,3.2-11.6c-.4,0-1.3-.1-2.7-.2l.2-8.3h5.1a164,164,0,0,1,6.9-16c2.7-5.4,5.4-10.7,8.1-16.2l10.3-.5,8.4,17.1a150.36,150.36,0,0,1,7.2,17.7c.9,2.8,1.8,5.6,2.8,8.4a92.94,92.94,0,0,1 >,2.5,9.7Zm-15.7-43.5A142.72,142.72,0,0,0,144,159c7.3.2,14.1.2,20.3.2-2-5-3.5-8.6-4.6-10.8A104.39,104.39,0,0,0,154.2,137.3Z"/>class="cls-4" >d="M23.8,72.3a26.31,26.31,0,0,0,12.4,3.3c6,0,9.3-2.8,9.3-7,0-3.9-2.6-6.2-9.1-8.5-8.4-3-13.8-7.5-13.8-14.9,0-8.4,7-14.7,18.1-14.7A26.52,26.52,0,0,1,53,33.1l-2.3,7.5a21.56,21.56,0,0,0-10.2-2.4c-5.9,0-8.5,3.2-8.5,6.2,0,4,3,5.8,9.8,8.4C50.7,56.1,55,60.6,55,68c0,8.2-6.2,15.4-19.5,15.4-5.4,0-11-1.5-13.8-3.2Zm29.6-55L41.9,26.4H34.3L43,17.3Z"/>class="cls-4" >d="M74.9,31.9c-.4,11-.5,27.4-.5,49.4v1.5c-1.7.1-4.3.2-7.8.2l-2-.2V80.6c0-.1.1-8.5.2-25.3.2-10.1.1-18.5-.2-25.2a16.43,16.43,0,0,1,6-1l4.4.1v2.7Z"/>class="cls-4" >d="M113.5,82.7H103A272.79,272.79,0,0,1,83.1,30.4l9.4-1.9c4.4,18.5,9.7,33.3,15.7,44.3q9.15-16.5,15.7-44.3l9.4,1.9A263.57,263.57,0,0,1,113.5,82.7Z"/>class="cls-4" >d="M171.2,83.5c-.7-4.3-1.7-8.7-2.9-13.3H142.5c-1.2,4.6-2.1,9-2.8,13.3l-10.3-1.6a95.11,95.11,0,0,1,3.2-11.6c-.4,0-1.3-.1-2.7-.2l.2-8.3h5.1a164,164,0,0,1,6.9-16c2. >7-5.4,5.4-10.7,8.1-16.2l10.3-.5,8.4,17.1a150.36,150.36,0,0,1,7.2,17.7c.9,2.8,1.8,5.6,2.8,8.4a92.94,92.94,0,0,1,2.5,9.7ZM155.6,40a142.72,142.72,0,0,0-10.2,21.7c7.3.2,14.1.2,20.3.2-2-5-3.5-8.6-4.6-10.8C159.1,46.7,157.2,43,155.6,40Z"/> > >But the following SVG imports fine as an image in LC and has multiple >colors. Granted they are all circles, but can't the above by turned >into this format? > >fill-rule="evenodd"> > > >fill-opacity="0.364182692" fill="#000000" cx="31.46" cy="31.46" >r="31.46"> > >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> > > > > > >BR >_______________________________________________ >use-livecode mailing list >use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. From rdimola at evergreeninfo.net Wed Jan 1 11:34:19 2020 From: rdimola at evergreeninfo.net (Ralph DiMola) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 11:34:19 -0500 Subject: Happy New Year! In-Reply-To: <0DCB9D0E-D414-400E-B797-FA34FCD51185@krutt.org> References: <0DCB9D0E-D414-400E-B797-FA34FCD51185@krutt.org> Message-ID: <001601d5c0c1$53ce0750$fb6a15f0$@net> Back at you and the entire LC community! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdimola at evergreeninfo.net -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Jjs via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 4:20 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Jjs Subject: Happy New Year! Wishing everyone a healthy and fantastic new year! Make it great! Happy coding! Regards, Sphere Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode schreef op 31 december 2019 20:39:36 CET: >I would like to import an SVG that has multiple paths and which two >colors. Using Illustrator or Inkscape, merge compound path make them >all the same color > >class="cls-3" >d="M73.6,129.2c-.3,10.9-.5,27.4-.5,49.3V180c-1.7.1-4.3.2-7.8.2l-2-.2v-2 >.2c0-.1.1-8.5.2-25.3.2-10.1.1-18.5-.2-25.2a16.43,16.43,0,0,1,6-1l4.4.1v >2.8Z"/>class="cls-3" >d="M112.1,180H101.6a272.79,272.79,0,0,1-19.9-52.3l9.4-1.9c4.4,18.5,9.7, >33.3,15.7,44.3,6.1-11,11.3-25.8,15.7-44.3l9.4,1.9A262.07,262.07,0,0,1,1 >12.1,180Z"/>class="cls-3" >d="M169.9,180.8c-.7-4.3-1.7-8.7-2.9-13.3H141.2c-1.2,4.6-2.1,9-2.8,13.3l >-10.3-1.6a95.11,95.11,0,0,1,3.2-11.6c-.4,0-1.3-.1-2.7-.2l.2-8.3h5.1a164 >,164,0,0,1,6.9-16c2.7-5.4,5.4-10.7,8.1-16.2l10.3-.5,8.4,17.1a150.36,150 >.36,0,0,1,7.2,17.7c.9,2.8,1.8,5.6,2.8,8.4a92.94,92.94,0,0,1 >,2.5,9.7Zm-15.7-43.5A142.72,142.72,0,0,0,144,159c7.3.2,14.1.2,20.3.2-2- >5-3.5-8.6-4.6-10.8A104.39,104.39,0,0,0,154.2,137.3Z"/>class="cls-4" >d="M23.8,72.3a26.31,26.31,0,0,0,12.4,3.3c6,0,9.3-2.8,9.3-7,0-3.9-2.6-6. >2-9.1-8.5-8.4-3-13.8-7.5-13.8-14.9,0-8.4,7-14.7,18.1-14.7A26.52,26.52,0 >,0,1,53,33.1l-2.3,7.5a21.56,21.56,0,0,0-10.2-2.4c-5.9,0-8.5,3.2-8.5,6.2 >,0,4,3,5.8,9.8,8.4C50.7,56.1,55,60.6,55,68c0,8.2-6.2,15.4-19.5,15.4-5.4 >,0-11-1.5-13.8-3.2Zm29.6-55L41.9,26.4H34.3L43,17.3Z"/>class="cls-4" >d="M74.9,31.9c-.4,11-.5,27.4-.5,49.4v1.5c-1.7.1-4.3.2-7.8.2l-2-.2V80.6c >0-.1.1-8.5.2-25.3.2-10.1.1-18.5-.2-25.2a16.43,16.43,0,0,1,6-1l4.4.1v2.7 >Z"/>class="cls-4" >d="M113.5,82.7H103A272.79,272.79,0,0,1,83.1,30.4l9.4-1.9c4.4,18.5,9.7,3 >3.3,15.7,44.3q9.15-16.5,15.7-44.3l9.4,1.9A263.57,263.57,0,0,1,113.5,82. >7Z"/>class="cls-4" >d="M171.2,83.5c-.7-4.3-1.7-8.7-2.9-13.3H142.5c-1.2,4.6-2.1,9-2.8,13.3l-10.3 -1.6a95.11,95.11,0,0,1,3.2-11.6c-.4,0-1.3-.1-2.7-.2l.2-8.3h5.1a164,164,0,0,1 ,6.9-16c2. >7-5.4,5.4-10.7,8.1-16.2l10.3-.5,8.4,17.1a150.36,150.36,0,0,1,7.2,17.7c. >9,2.8,1.8,5.6,2.8,8.4a92.94,92.94,0,0,1,2.5,9.7ZM155.6,40a142.72,142.72 >,0,0,0-10.2,21.7c7.3.2,14.1.2,20.3.2-2-5-3.5-8.6-4.6-10.8C159.1,46.7,15 >7.2,43,155.6,40Z"/> > >But the following SVG imports fine as an image in LC and has multiple >colors. Granted they are all circles, but can't the above by turned >into this format? > >fill-rule="evenodd"> > > >fill-opacity="0.364182692" fill="#000000" cx="31.46" cy="31.46" >r="31.46"> > >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> >r="4.62825"> > > > > > >BR >_______________________________________________ >use-livecode mailing list >use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From ambassador at fourthworld.com Wed Jan 1 19:48:20 2020 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 16:48:20 -0800 Subject: LiveCode won't recognize my stack In-Reply-To: <84191B7C-AE47-4647-AAF2-B2815A7EACE8@mac.com> References: <84191B7C-AE47-4647-AAF2-B2815A7EACE8@mac.com> Message-ID: <8547edb2-7750-a945-469d-6f9d31d91dae@fourthworld.com> Bill Vlahos wrote: > Richard, > > I?m running the different versions of LiveCode on the same Mac and looking at the same file so I don?t think the OS is affecting this. > > I?m just asking if there is a stack with the correct name and getting ?false? as the answer if using LC 9.5.1. > If I ask for ?file? and not ?stack? then the result is ?true?. > > The path to the LicenseKey.IW file is correct at: /Volumes/HP c310w/InfoWallet 1.4/Info Files > > Here is the error message: > Executing at 4:47:43 PM on Tuesday, December 31, 2019 > Type: Chunk: can't find stack > Object: stack '/Volumes/HP c310w/InfoWallet 1.4/Info Files/InfoWallet.app/Contents/MacOS/InfoWallet' > Line Num: 26 > Hint: populateFileList > > Comments: > > > I think LC must have changed how they are validating ?stack? in version 8 compared to version 7. Maybe, but if so it's happening in a way not even Mark Waddingham is aware of (see his earlier post), and in ways I've never seen (and I do some weird things with stack files). Most interesting here is that "is a file" returns true while "is a stack" returns false. Were both of those tests run in the standalone? MacOS changed some aspects of how apps are allowed to address contents of its internal bundle folders a while back, but I would be surprised if those come into play only when testing "is a stack" but not "is a file". Is the stack file openable in the IDE? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From brian at milby7.com Wed Jan 1 19:58:35 2020 From: brian at milby7.com (Brian Milby) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 19:58:35 -0500 Subject: LiveCode won't recognize my stack In-Reply-To: <8547edb2-7750-a945-469d-6f9d31d91dae@fourthworld.com> References: <84191B7C-AE47-4647-AAF2-B2815A7EACE8@mac.com> <8547edb2-7750-a945-469d-6f9d31d91dae@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <82d55da7-8835-4e4c-b390-c8cf29104d3f@Spark> Have you tried addressing it via the full path? put the uProperty of stack ?/fullPathToFile/actualFileName? into tVar Thanks, Brian From jiml at netrin.com Wed Jan 1 23:19:15 2020 From: jiml at netrin.com (Jim Lambert) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 20:19:15 -0800 Subject: Happy 2020! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have a Happy LiveCode New Year! Jim Lambert From tom at makeshyft.com Wed Jan 1 23:35:46 2020 From: tom at makeshyft.com (Tom Glod) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 23:35:46 -0500 Subject: Happy 2020! In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hey Jim, thanks and same to you! On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:19 PM Jim Lambert via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Have a Happy LiveCode New Year! > > Jim Lambert > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Office:226-706-9339 Mobile:226-706-9793 From tom at makeshyft.com Wed Jan 1 23:36:14 2020 From: tom at makeshyft.com (Tom Glod) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 23:36:14 -0500 Subject: Happy 2020! In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: And everyone else on the mailing list. Happy 2020!!! On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:35 PM Tom Glod wrote: > Hey Jim, thanks and same to you! > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:19 PM Jim Lambert via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Have a Happy LiveCode New Year! >> >> Jim Lambert >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > -- > Tom Glod > Founder & Developer > MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) > Office:226-706-9339 > Mobile:226-706-9793 > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Office:226-706-9339 Mobile:226-706-9793 From dev at digifilm.com Thu Jan 2 00:12:00 2020 From: dev at digifilm.com (dev) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 21:12:00 -0800 Subject: Import SVG with Multi-Path and Two colors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <508985F2-B77D-4848-97AE-BA20839B7DAF@digifilm.com> Aloha Swami, Does this work for you? ???????Code------------------ ???????????End-Code?????????? Cheers, Debdoot > On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > > I would like to import an SVG that has multiple paths and which two colors. Using Illustrator or Inkscape, merge compound path make them all the same color > > > > But the following SVG imports fine as an image in LC and has multiple colors. Granted they are all circles, but can't the above by turned into this format? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BR > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From dev at digifilm.com Thu Jan 2 00:21:48 2020 From: dev at digifilm.com (dev) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 21:21:48 -0800 Subject: Import SVG with Multi-Path and Two colors In-Reply-To: <508985F2-B77D-4848-97AE-BA20839B7DAF@digifilm.com> References: <508985F2-B77D-4848-97AE-BA20839B7DAF@digifilm.com> Message-ID: <717CCFEC-46E2-4618-868C-E44545666F7F@digifilm.com> Aloha Swami, Noticed a bit of garbage in the previous code. This one?s better. Cheers -dd ??????????? From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Thu Jan 2 12:04:02 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 17:04:02 +0000 Subject: Can't launch URL anymore Message-ID: <065B903D-B7E4-4682-8388-196874928D80@iotecdigital.com> Hi all. I have a Google Maps button that builds a URL of a goole map with the origin and destination. In the past this has worked on the Mac without issue. Now it is failing. I also noted that it is failing in terminal as well, but I am thinking that perhaps launch url is using the terminal to do it's thing, or else the same library that the terminal uses, which means it's a distinction without a difference. I'm using 10.14.6. All browsers have the issue (Firefix, Chrome, Safari.) Another user upgraded to 10.15 and does NOT have the issue! Any ideas? Bob S From ambassador at fourthworld.com Thu Jan 2 12:55:36 2020 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 09:55:36 -0800 Subject: Can't launch URL anymore In-Reply-To: <065B903D-B7E4-4682-8388-196874928D80@iotecdigital.com> References: <065B903D-B7E4-4682-8388-196874928D80@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: <24418c4f-b2b6-23e7-6770-ebab3cf65a3b@fourthworld.com> Bob Sneidar wrote: > I have a Google Maps button that builds a URL of a goole map with the > origin and destination. In the past this has worked on the Mac without > issue. Now it is failing. I also noted that it is failing in terminal > as well, but I am thinking that perhaps launch url is using the > terminal to do it's thing, or else the same library that the terminal > uses, which means it's a distinction without a difference. > > I'm using 10.14.6. All browsers have the issue (Firefix, Chrome, > Safari.) Another user upgraded to 10.15 and does NOT have the issue! > > Any ideas? Does it fail when pasting the URL directly into a browser's address field? If so you've narrowed down the root cause. I've seen some articles about Google changing its auth requirements and pricing structure. Depending on what you're doing with the Maps API you may or may not be affected by those changes. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Thu Jan 2 15:12:15 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:12:15 +0000 Subject: Can't launch URL anymore In-Reply-To: <24418c4f-b2b6-23e7-6770-ebab3cf65a3b@fourthworld.com> References: <065B903D-B7E4-4682-8388-196874928D80@iotecdigital.com> <24418c4f-b2b6-23e7-6770-ebab3cf65a3b@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <119B2BE2-B376-42A5-ADAB-8E6B6F6935E9@iotecdigital.com> No pasting the assembled URL works. And it also fails in other apps too. Not an LC issue. Bob S > On Jan 2, 2020, at 09:55 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > Bob Sneidar wrote: > > > I have a Google Maps button that builds a URL of a goole map with the > > origin and destination. In the past this has worked on the Mac without > > issue. Now it is failing. I also noted that it is failing in terminal > > as well, but I am thinking that perhaps launch url is using the > > terminal to do it's thing, or else the same library that the terminal > > uses, which means it's a distinction without a difference. > > > > I'm using 10.14.6. All browsers have the issue (Firefix, Chrome, > > Safari.) Another user upgraded to 10.15 and does NOT have the issue! > > > > Any ideas? > > Does it fail when pasting the URL directly into a browser's address field? > > If so you've narrowed down the root cause. > > I've seen some articles about Google changing its auth requirements and pricing structure. Depending on what you're doing with the Maps API you may or may not be affected by those changes. > > -- > Richard Gaskin From brahma at hindu.org Thu Jan 2 15:51:24 2020 From: brahma at hindu.org (Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:51:24 +0000 Subject: Import SVG with Multi-Path and Two colors In-Reply-To: <717CCFEC-46E2-4618-868C-E44545666F7F@digifilm.com> References: <508985F2-B77D-4848-97AE-BA20839B7DAF@digifilm.com> <717CCFEC-46E2-4618-868C-E44545666F7F@digifilm.com> Message-ID: <0683F1FD-6578-4D52-9E60-BA70886D179D@hindu.org> Sorry, that doesn?t work, I just get a white box I needed the background to be opaque and was trying to do that in SVG widget Anyway, I had my designer send another opaque version from the output from Sketch Now, using Image As Control --> Image File [choose below in a file:} it works. But it is not possibly to put this in the Path field, of the SVG icon. So, Mark W. has done some magic in the engine for Import As Control, that is not possible in LCB/SVG widget. This "image" will do the job. it is scales with no lossy pixels! Aloha Swami, Noticed a bit of garbage in the previous code. This one?s better. Cheers -dd From klaus at major-k.de Thu Jan 2 16:02:28 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:02:28 +0100 Subject: Import SVG with Multi-Path and Two colors In-Reply-To: <0683F1FD-6578-4D52-9E60-BA70886D179D@hindu.org> References: <508985F2-B77D-4848-97AE-BA20839B7DAF@digifilm.com> <717CCFEC-46E2-4618-868C-E44545666F7F@digifilm.com> <0683F1FD-6578-4D52-9E60-BA70886D179D@hindu.org> Message-ID: Hi all, > Am 02.01.2020 um 21:51 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode : > > ... > Now, using Image As Control --> Image File [choose below in a file:} > it works. But it is not possibly to put this in the Path field, of the SVG icon. > So, Mark W. has done some magic in the engine for Import As Control, that is not possible in LCB/SVG widget. > This "image" will do the job. it is scales with no lossy pixels! yes, very cool! After importing that SVG file, it IS in fact an image object and we can use it immediatley as an icon in a button. But that raises the (naive?) question: Why do we have to convert a SVG widget with "drawingSvgCompile" to be able to use a SVG as an Icon in a button? > > Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Thu Jan 2 19:50:17 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 00:50:17 +0000 Subject: Import SVG with Multi-Path and Two colors In-Reply-To: References: <508985F2-B77D-4848-97AE-BA20839B7DAF@digifilm.com> <717CCFEC-46E2-4618-868C-E44545666F7F@digifilm.com> <0683F1FD-6578-4D52-9E60-BA70886D179D@hindu.org> Message-ID: An even better questions is, why can't an imported image have a file path property as well as a button? This is really where the file path SHOULD be. Think of it. We import an image. We create a button. We tell the button to use the imported image as an icon. We then tell the BUTTON where the IMAGE file path is! Wha??? As I have moaned about before, this has the effect of delinking any buttons copied from one stack to the other. Even when the image is ALSO coied, it gets a new ID, so the button link breaks. This makes groups of objects very non-portable. It may be better for me to not use buttons, and just use images, but there are reasons why buttons are better. For one, a button can have a different image assigned for different states eg. enabled, disabled etc. I'll check the feature requests to see if this one has been put up. I am almost certain I have requested this in the past. Bob S > On Jan 2, 2020, at 13:02 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > > Hi all, > >> Am 02.01.2020 um 21:51 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode : >> >> ... >> Now, using Image As Control --> Image File [choose below in a file:} >> it works. But it is not possibly to put this in the Path field, of the SVG icon. >> So, Mark W. has done some magic in the engine for Import As Control, that is not possible in LCB/SVG widget. >> This "image" will do the job. it is scales with no lossy pixels! > > yes, very cool! > > After importing that SVG file, it IS in fact an image object and we can use > it immediatley as an icon in a button. > > But that raises the (naive?) question: > Why do we have to convert a SVG widget with "drawingSvgCompile" > to be able to use a SVG as an Icon in a button? From sundown at pacifier.com Fri Jan 3 13:19:20 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:19:20 -0800 Subject: empty variable Message-ID: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com> What if I have secure info like a password stored in a local variable and then I clear that info by putting empty into that local variable. How secure is that procedure? I understand a local variable does not retain the info after the code finishes but I am concerned about any info left in memory. In the c language to clear the memory you set all of the blocks to null. That is because it is more secure than doing something like putting empty into the variable. So the question is when I put empty into a local variable I know when you access that variable it will return empty but if it has not been set to null then is it possible for someone to read the blocks of memory and get anything back. In c if you set all of the blocks to null and not just the first block then you have eliminated the chance of someone recovering the info. Is there a secure way to clear a variable in Livecode? JB From tom at makeshyft.com Fri Jan 3 13:55:42 2020 From: tom at makeshyft.com (Tom Glod) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:55:42 -0500 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com> References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com> Message-ID: A memory dump can reveal everything stored in memory for a particular process. the delete variable command is what you are looking for. https://livecode.fandom.com/wiki/Delete_variable On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 1:22 PM JB via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > What if I have secure info like a password stored > in a local variable and then I clear that info by > putting empty into that local variable. > > How secure is that procedure? I understand a > local variable does not retain the info after the > code finishes but I am concerned about any > info left in memory. > > In the c language to clear the memory you set > all of the blocks to null. That is because it is > more secure than doing something like putting > empty into the variable. > > So the question is when I put empty into a local > variable I know when you access that variable it > will return empty but if it has not been set to null > then is it possible for someone to read the blocks > of memory and get anything back. In c if you set > all of the blocks to null and not just the first block > then you have eliminated the chance of someone > recovering the info. Is there a secure way to clear > a variable in Livecode? > > JB > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Office:226-706-9339 Mobile:226-706-9793 From sundown at pacifier.com Fri Jan 3 14:04:02 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:04:02 -0800 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Hi Tom, Thanks for the fast reply & info! That was an interesting link. Here are a few lines from the link, ---------- The delete variable command not only removes the contents of the variable, but deletes it entirely from memory. If you delete a key from an array variable, that element of the array no longer exists as part of the variable. Local variables that are used within a handler are automatically deleted when the handler in which they are used exits. You can't delete local or global variables, using delete you just put the value empty in them. ---------- So it sounds to me from the last line above that putting empty into the variable is secure. JB > On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: > > A memory dump can reveal everything stored in memory for a particular > process. > > the delete variable command is what you are looking for. > > https://livecode.fandom.com/wiki/Delete_variable > > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 1:22 PM JB via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> What if I have secure info like a password stored >> in a local variable and then I clear that info by >> putting empty into that local variable. >> >> How secure is that procedure? I understand a >> local variable does not retain the info after the >> code finishes but I am concerned about any >> info left in memory. >> >> In the c language to clear the memory you set >> all of the blocks to null. That is because it is >> more secure than doing something like putting >> empty into the variable. >> >> So the question is when I put empty into a local >> variable I know when you access that variable it >> will return empty but if it has not been set to null >> then is it possible for someone to read the blocks >> of memory and get anything back. In c if you set >> all of the blocks to null and not just the first block >> then you have eliminated the chance of someone >> recovering the info. Is there a secure way to clear >> a variable in Livecode? >> >> JB >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > -- > Tom Glod > Founder & Developer > MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) > Office:226-706-9339 > Mobile:226-706-9793 > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Fri Jan 3 14:09:49 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 19:09:49 +0000 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com>

Message-ID: <3A9AE02F-364E-4519-98FE-A5A5AA3B22AC@iotecdigital.com> I'm not sure what this means. When you use delete variable on a script local, it clears the contents of the variable, but the variable still exists, that is if you can use the Script Editor variable watcher as any kind of irrefutable evidence. Bob S > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:04 , JB via use-livecode wrote: > > You can't delete local or global variables, using delete you just put the value empty in them. > ---------- > > So it sounds to me from the last line above that putting empty into the variable is secure. > > JB From sundown at pacifier.com Fri Jan 3 14:11:35 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:11:35 -0800 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: <3A9AE02F-364E-4519-98FE-A5A5AA3B22AC@iotecdigital.com> References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com>

<3A9AE02F-364E-4519-98FE-A5A5AA3B22AC@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: <6FF0326B-55FB-449E-9F08-79C5C05A03BC@pacifier.com> Hi Bob, yeah, I am not sure exactly what it means either. Different ways of doing the same thing? JB > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > > I'm not sure what this means. When you use delete variable on a script local, it clears the contents of the variable, but the variable still exists, that is if you can use the Script Editor variable watcher as any kind of irrefutable evidence. > > Bob S > > >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:04 , JB via use-livecode wrote: >> >> You can't delete local or global variables, using delete you just put the value empty in them. >> ---------- >> >> So it sounds to me from the last line above that putting empty into the variable is secure. >> >> JB > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Fri Jan 3 14:15:16 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 19:15:16 +0000 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: <6FF0326B-55FB-449E-9F08-79C5C05A03BC@pacifier.com> References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com>

<3A9AE02F-364E-4519-98FE-A5A5AA3B22AC@iotecdigital.com> <6FF0326B-55FB-449E-9F08-79C5C05A03BC@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <8F53801D-09F6-476E-B24C-387B39D20689@iotecdigital.com> I think a memory dump and search of the contents is about the only thing you can do to be sure. Bob S > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:11 , JB via use-livecode wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > yeah, I am not sure exactly what it means either. > Different ways of doing the same thing? > > JB From sundown at pacifier.com Fri Jan 3 14:27:16 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:27:16 -0800 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: <8F53801D-09F6-476E-B24C-387B39D20689@iotecdigital.com> References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com>

<3A9AE02F-364E-4519-98FE-A5A5AA3B22AC@iotecdigital.com> <6FF0326B-55FB-449E-9F08-79C5C05A03BC@pacifier.com> <8F53801D-09F6-476E-B24C-387B39D20689@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: Is there a easy way to do a memory dump in Livecode? Can I read the blocks of only memory for that variable? In c the blocks are a array numbered from 0 to the size of the variable which would be the length of the variable in Livecode and you can access individual blocks and that is how you write a null character to each block. If you need to dump all of the memory on your machine that might help but it would be better to dump only the memory you want to look at. Another thing to consider about dumping the memory is the result are not always predictable. If you did not write a null character to each block of that memory when you dump the memory it may not show up one time but will be there in another dump. That is why in c if you want to put empty into a variable you can set the first block to null and when you check the variable it will be empty but in a memory dump the memory may be empty and it may have some or all of the info in that block range except the first block which is the one you set to null. So the secure method you use bzero or a similar way to set every block to null. JB > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > > I think a memory dump and search of the contents is about the only thing you can do to be sure. > > Bob S > > >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:11 , JB via use-livecode wrote: >> >> Hi Bob, >> >> yeah, I am not sure exactly what it means either. >> Different ways of doing the same thing? >> >> JB > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From sundown at pacifier.com Fri Jan 3 14:58:07 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:58:07 -0800 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: <8F53801D-09F6-476E-B24C-387B39D20689@iotecdigital.com> References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com>

<3A9AE02F-364E-4519-98FE-A5A5AA3B22AC@iotecdigital.com> <6FF0326B-55FB-449E-9F08-79C5C05A03BC@pacifier.com> <8F53801D-09F6-476E-B24C-387B39D20689@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: I have it figured out. You use it to delete each element of the array and that is the same as writing null to each element of the variable. I think they mean if you do not delete each element using this method all you are doing is putting empty into the variable and that would be the same as if you only write a null to the first element of the array. In other words putting empty into the variable is not secure. JB > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > > I think a memory dump and search of the contents is about the only thing you can do to be sure. > > Bob S > > >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:11 , JB via use-livecode wrote: >> >> Hi Bob, >> >> yeah, I am not sure exactly what it means either. >> Different ways of doing the same thing? >> >> JB > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Fri Jan 3 15:58:52 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 20:58:52 +0000 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com>

<3A9AE02F-364E-4519-98FE-A5A5AA3B22AC@iotecdigital.com> <6FF0326B-55FB-449E-9F08-79C5C05A03BC@pacifier.com> <8F53801D-09F6-476E-B24C-387B39D20689@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: <646C09C8-1F9E-49EB-B420-6BB69D3BB8A7@iotecdigital.com> Well its really about what is going on under the hood. Memory dump for Macs is not trivial from what I read. Apparently it involves turning off system integrity and then booting into a special mode. At that point I stopped reading. Not something I care to do with a production system. Bob S > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:58 , JB via use-livecode wrote: > > I have it figured out. > > You use it to delete each element of the array and > that is the same as writing null to each element of > the variable. > > I think they mean if you do not delete each element > using this method all you are doing is putting empty > into the variable and that would be the same as if > you only write a null to the first element of the array. > > In other words putting empty into the variable is not > secure. > > JB From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Fri Jan 3 16:02:45 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 21:02:45 +0000 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: <646C09C8-1F9E-49EB-B420-6BB69D3BB8A7@iotecdigital.com> References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com>

<3A9AE02F-364E-4519-98FE-A5A5AA3B22AC@iotecdigital.com> <6FF0326B-55FB-449E-9F08-79C5C05A03BC@pacifier.com> <8F53801D-09F6-476E-B24C-387B39D20689@iotecdigital.com> <646C09C8-1F9E-49EB-B420-6BB69D3BB8A7@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: <0FB55B9A-39C9-4037-8DE0-C9672BCD56A3@pacifier.com> It seems I really do not need to worry too much because if I understood it correctly the memory of the variable at the end of the execution of that code is not only released but it is also deleted. Since the variable I am concerned about is used at the end of the code it does not exist after I use it because the code is finished and the memory is automatically freed and deleted. JB > On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > > Well its really about what is going on under the hood. Memory dump for Macs is not trivial from what I read. Apparently it involves turning off system integrity and then booting into a special mode. At that point I stopped reading. Not something I care to do with a production system. > > Bob S > > >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:58 , JB via use-livecode wrote: >> >> I have it figured out. >> >> You use it to delete each element of the array and >> that is the same as writing null to each element of >> the variable. >> >> I think they mean if you do not delete each element >> using this method all you are doing is putting empty >> into the variable and that would be the same as if >> you only write a null to the first element of the array. >> >> In other words putting empty into the variable is not >> secure. >> >> JB > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From ambassador at fourthworld.com Fri Jan 3 16:29:11 2020 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:29:11 -0800 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com> References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1570b693-ef7d-8055-d791-83b0dbc68685@fourthworld.com> How does the password come into the variable? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems JB wrote: > What if I have secure info like a password stored > in a local variable and then I clear that info by > putting empty into that local variable. > > How secure is that procedure? I understand a > local variable does not retain the info after the > code finishes but I am concerned about any > info left in memory. > > In the c language to clear the memory you set > all of the blocks to null. That is because it is > more secure than doing something like putting > empty into the variable. > > So the question is when I put empty into a local > variable I know when you access that variable it > will return empty but if it has not been set to null > then is it possible for someone to read the blocks > of memory and get anything back. In c if you set > all of the blocks to null and not just the first block > then you have eliminated the chance of someone > recovering the info. Is there a secure way to clear > a variable in Livecode? > > JB From sundown at pacifier.com Fri Jan 3 16:36:19 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:36:19 -0800 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: <1570b693-ef7d-8055-d791-83b0dbc68685@fourthworld.com> References: <085C5D4A-FDE7-4C40-97DA-77D2DCC12353@pacifier.com> <1570b693-ef7d-8055-d791-83b0dbc68685@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: That is a very interesting question! If the user enters the password or did I hardcode a password so what follows can only be executed if it included the text I put into the variable. I am in this case hardcoding it in myself. This could be text that is encrypted but it is still there even before it is put into the variable and that means it is in memory. Any suggestions to make it as secure as possible? JB > On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > How does the password come into the variable? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > > JB wrote: >> What if I have secure info like a password stored >> in a local variable and then I clear that info by >> putting empty into that local variable. >> How secure is that procedure? I understand a >> local variable does not retain the info after the >> code finishes but I am concerned about any >> info left in memory. >> In the c language to clear the memory you set >> all of the blocks to null. That is because it is >> more secure than doing something like putting >> empty into the variable. >> So the question is when I put empty into a local >> variable I know when you access that variable it >> will return empty but if it has not been set to null >> then is it possible for someone to read the blocks >> of memory and get anything back. In c if you set >> all of the blocks to null and not just the first block >> then you have eliminated the chance of someone >> recovering the info. Is there a secure way to clear >> a variable in Livecode? >> JB > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From ambassador at fourthworld.com Fri Jan 3 16:59:19 2020 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:59:19 -0800 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <176929df-a0ca-0c05-14b5-bced2b94345f@fourthworld.com> Inputs often pose a bigger risk than core dumps. Where you ask: "Any suggestions to make it as secure as possible?" ...we might instead ask: "Any suggestions to make it as secure as *practical*?" ...or even: "Any suggestions to make it as secure as *cost-effective*?" There are always ways to make things more secure. The hard part is defining an appropriate level of effort relative to the importance of the secret. Consider this scale of 1 to 5, in terms of how hard people work to keep things secret: 1. My app's reg code 2. A user-defined password 3. A user's social security number 4. Nuclear secrets 5. Trump's tax returns If it's #1 I wouldn't spend more than half an hour thinking about it, for so many reasons covered in this list before. #2 is worth spending some time on, but better hashed than encrypted. #3 or above will require an understanding of the system to provide useful guidance. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems JB wrote: > That is a very interesting question! > > If the user enters the password or did I hardcode a password > so what follows can only be executed if it included the text I > put into the variable. > > I am in this case hardcoding it in myself. This could be text > that is encrypted but it is still there even before it is put into > the variable and that means it is in memory. > > Any suggestions to make it as secure as possible? > > JB > > >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> >> How does the password come into the variable? >> >> -- >> Richard Gaskin >> Fourth World Systems >> >> JB wrote: >>> What if I have secure info like a password stored >>> in a local variable and then I clear that info by >>> putting empty into that local variable. >>> How secure is that procedure? I understand a >>> local variable does not retain the info after the >>> code finishes but I am concerned about any >>> info left in memory. >>> In the c language to clear the memory you set >>> all of the blocks to null. That is because it is >>> more secure than doing something like putting >>> empty into the variable. >>> So the question is when I put empty into a local >>> variable I know when you access that variable it >>> will return empty but if it has not been set to null >>> then is it possible for someone to read the blocks >>> of memory and get anything back. In c if you set >>> all of the blocks to null and not just the first block >>> then you have eliminated the chance of someone >>> recovering the info. Is there a secure way to clear >>> a variable in Livecode? >>> JB >> From klaus at major-k.de Sun Jan 5 11:17:13 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 17:17:13 +0100 Subject: Display PDF on Android Message-ID: <35CA6E88-9C03-4F61-9149-E8D76CACC93A@major-k.de> Hi all, I just filed an enhancement request to give us a way to display (local) PFDs on Android! I think in 2020 it IS about time for this, especially since we will finally be able to "print to PDF" in LC 9.6! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Mon Jan 6 10:52:04 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 15:52:04 +0000 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: <176929df-a0ca-0c05-14b5-bced2b94345f@fourthworld.com> References: <176929df-a0ca-0c05-14b5-bced2b94345f@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: I agree. It's easy to imagine that one can acheive absolute security, but in practice it is impossible by nature. Just someone standing over your shoulder or putting a spy camera in place is all that would be needed. The idea then is to make it as difficult and impractical as possible given the resources you have. Bob S > On Jan 3, 2020, at 13:59 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > Inputs often pose a bigger risk than core dumps. > > Where you ask: > "Any suggestions to make it as secure as possible?" > > ...we might instead ask: > "Any suggestions to make it as secure as *practical*?" > > ...or even: > "Any suggestions to make it as secure as *cost-effective*?" > > There are always ways to make things more secure. The hard part is defining an appropriate level of effort relative to the importance of the secret. > > Consider this scale of 1 to 5, in terms of how hard people work to keep things secret: > > 1. My app's reg code > 2. A user-defined password > 3. A user's social security number > 4. Nuclear secrets > 5. Trump's tax returns > > If it's #1 I wouldn't spend more than half an hour thinking about it, for so many reasons covered in this list before. > > #2 is worth spending some time on, but better hashed than encrypted. > > #3 or above will require an understanding of the system to provide useful guidance. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems From paul at researchware.com Mon Jan 6 11:02:09 2020 From: paul at researchware.com (Paul Dupuis) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 11:02:09 -0500 Subject: Display PDF on Android In-Reply-To: <35CA6E88-9C03-4F61-9149-E8D76CACC93A@major-k.de> References: <35CA6E88-9C03-4F61-9149-E8D76CACC93A@major-k.de> Message-ID: <081c64d1-1093-cd74-4f50-63d53dfd6721@researchware.com> I though the XPDF widget works on all platforms, including Android? You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with LiveCode, Ltd. On 1/5/2020 11:17 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > Hi all, > > I just filed an enhancement request to give us a way to display (local) PFDs on Android! > > > I think in 2020 it IS about time for this, especially since we will finally be able to > "print to PDF" in LC 9.6! > > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > https://www.major-k.de > klaus at major-k.de > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From klaus at major-k.de Mon Jan 6 11:28:13 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 17:28:13 +0100 Subject: Display PDF on Android In-Reply-To: <081c64d1-1093-cd74-4f50-63d53dfd6721@researchware.com> References: <35CA6E88-9C03-4F61-9149-E8D76CACC93A@major-k.de> <081c64d1-1093-cd74-4f50-63d53dfd6721@researchware.com> Message-ID: Hi Paul, > Am 06.01.2020 um 17:02 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode : > > I though the XPDF widget works on all platforms, including Android? It probably does, but see below... > You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with LiveCode, Ltd. This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy! > On 1/5/2020 11:17 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I just filed an enhancement request to give us a way to display (local) PFDs on Android! >> >> >> I think in 2020 it IS about time for this, especially since we will finally be able to >> "print to PDF" in LC 9.6! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From paul at researchware.com Mon Jan 6 12:06:34 2020 From: paul at researchware.com (Paul Dupuis) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 12:06:34 -0500 Subject: Display PDF on Android In-Reply-To: References: <35CA6E88-9C03-4F61-9149-E8D76CACC93A@major-k.de> <081c64d1-1093-cd74-4f50-63d53dfd6721@researchware.com> Message-ID: On 1/6/2020 11:28 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > > You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with LiveCode, Ltd. > This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy! > > Okay, then this (https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22521) is not a really a technical enhancement request. I would expect LC to have to spend time reviewing the Bugzilla entry to then just make it as RESOLVED since XPDF widget is available for anyone who pays for it. Making this an technical enhancement request just doesn'tseem like the place for a licensing issue. You would just like the XPDF widget for a lower cost (Indy pricing vs Business pricing). That is entirely a licensing issue to discuss with LiveCode, LTD. Ask them for a discount or a special package or something. Not trying to be an A$$hole or anything, I just think you'd have more success negotiating some way you can afford to use the XPDF widget. From matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de Mon Jan 6 12:15:56 2020 From: matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de (Matthias Rebbe) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 18:15:56 +0100 Subject: Display PDF on Android In-Reply-To: References: <35CA6E88-9C03-4F61-9149-E8D76CACC93A@major-k.de> <081c64d1-1093-cd74-4f50-63d53dfd6721@researchware.com>

Message-ID: <307C1AFF-F3E7-420B-AB1F-BB50ECA0AA48@m-r-d.de> I don?t think that Klaus was just asking for himself, but for all developers with a lower license type than Business. As long as the Android Browser does not support displaying PDF files, i think that request is a legitimate one. But you are correct, that this is not a feature request. Matthias Matthias Rebbe free tools for Livecoders: InstaMaker WinSignMaker Mac > Am 06.01.2020 um 18:06 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode >: > > On 1/6/2020 11:28 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> >> You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with LiveCode, Ltd. >> This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy! >> >> > > Okay, then this (https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22521 ) is not a really a technical enhancement request. > > I would expect LC to have to spend time reviewing the Bugzilla entry to then just make it as RESOLVED since XPDF widget is available for anyone who pays for it. Making this an technical enhancement request just doesn'tseem like the place for a licensing issue. > > You would just like the XPDF widget for a lower cost (Indy pricing vs Business pricing). That is entirely a licensing issue to discuss with LiveCode, LTD. Ask them for a discount or a special package or something. > > Not trying to be an A$$hole or anything, I just think you'd have more success negotiating some way you can afford to use the XPDF widget. > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From klaus at major-k.de Mon Jan 6 12:17:23 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 18:17:23 +0100 Subject: Display PDF on Android In-Reply-To: References: <35CA6E88-9C03-4F61-9149-E8D76CACC93A@major-k.de> <081c64d1-1093-cd74-4f50-63d53dfd6721@researchware.com>

Message-ID: <979F80B0-915B-4F3F-9D5C-3E8F873591BF@major-k.de> Hi Paul, > Am 06.01.2020 um 18:06 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode : > > On 1/6/2020 11:28 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> >> You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with LiveCode, Ltd. >> This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy! > Okay, then this (https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22521) is not a really a technical enhancement request. OK, maybe, but the message should be clear. > I would expect LC to have to spend time reviewing the Bugzilla entry to then just make it as RESOLVED since XPDF widget is available for anyone who pays for it. Making this an technical enhancement request just doesn'tseem like the place for a licensing issue. > > You would just like the XPDF widget for a lower cost (Indy pricing vs Business pricing). That is entirely a licensing issue to discuss with LiveCode, LTD. Ask them for a discount or a special package or something. > > Not trying to be an A$$hole or anything, I just think you'd have more success negotiating some way you can afford to use the XPDF widget. I personally do not need this widget, I don't own any mobile device, be it a cellphone or table, and I am not developing for the mobile platform. :-) I am just interested in an adequate user experience for everyone using the mobile paltform! some of the folks I am mentoring actually need this. Right now some of them are maintaining two version of the app (HAVE TO!): One for iOS, where we can print to and display PDF with build-in means, but the Android version can not print to PDF, we need to use a PNG, same for displaying data. I don't this this does look very professional in 2020. And I think it is paradox that we can print to PDF on Android in LC 9.6 but still cannot display the generated PDF file! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From panos.merakos at livecode.com Mon Jan 6 12:18:41 2020 From: panos.merakos at livecode.com (panagiotis merakos) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 19:18:41 +0200 Subject: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 207 Message-ID: Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #207 here: http://bit.ly/2tuYLkR This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around the open source project. New issues will be released weekly on Mondays. We have a dedicated mailing list that will deliver each issue directly to you e-mail, so you don't miss any! If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion somewhere, an upcoming event) then please get in touch. -- Panagiotis Merakos LiveCode Software Developer Everyone Can Create Apps From rdimola at evergreeninfo.net Mon Jan 6 12:24:12 2020 From: rdimola at evergreeninfo.net (Ralph DiMola) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 12:24:12 -0500 Subject: Display PDF on Android In-Reply-To: References: <35CA6E88-9C03-4F61-9149-E8D76CACC93A@major-k.de> <081c64d1-1093-cd74-4f50-63d53dfd6721@researchware.com>

Message-ID: <006001d5c4b6$205bd980$61138c80$@net> Before the PDF Widget was available I used pdfjs(github) with the browser widget. It's a decent PDF viewer. It does not work directly in the IDE because one can't open local files on a desktop browser. This is NOT a restriction on Android so pdfjs works on mobile(including iOS). I used a local web server for testing in the IDE using pdfjs before the browser widget was released. The other problem is that the Android OS does not open PDFs natively. I see this as an Android not an LC issue. If you browse to a PDF in say... Chrome, the PDF is downloaded and then Android user must supply a PDF reader. In 2020 I find this ridicules. To get around this in LC one must intercept the PDF URL and download it to the local storage and the display using either pdfjs or the PDF Widget. Fun and Games! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdimola at evergreeninfo.net -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Paul Dupuis via use-livecode Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 12:07 PM To: use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Cc: Paul Dupuis Subject: Re: Display PDF on Android On 1/6/2020 11:28 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > > You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with LiveCode, Ltd. > This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy! > > Okay, then this (https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22521) is not a really a technical enhancement request. I would expect LC to have to spend time reviewing the Bugzilla entry to then just make it as RESOLVED since XPDF widget is available for anyone who pays for it. Making this an technical enhancement request just doesn'tseem like the place for a licensing issue. You would just like the XPDF widget for a lower cost (Indy pricing vs Business pricing). That is entirely a licensing issue to discuss with LiveCode, LTD. Ask them for a discount or a special package or something. Not trying to be an A$$hole or anything, I just think you'd have more success negotiating some way you can afford to use the XPDF widget. _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From sundown at pacifier.com Mon Jan 6 13:40:14 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 10:40:14 -0800 Subject: empty variable In-Reply-To: References: <176929df-a0ca-0c05-14b5-bced2b94345f@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <4508FDDF-594C-4016-9B08-0890DF9B91BC@pacifier.com> One of the problems with #3 and above is the people who want your code will probably spend more money and time figuring out a way to steal the uncompiled code than they would spend trying to hack the code. And they most likely have a lot of corrupt connections and money to spend. JB > On Jan 6, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > > I agree. It's easy to imagine that one can acheive absolute security, but in practice it is impossible by nature. Just someone standing over your shoulder or putting a spy camera in place is all that would be needed. The idea then is to make it as difficult and impractical as possible given the resources you have. > > Bob S > > >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 13:59 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> >> Inputs often pose a bigger risk than core dumps. >> >> Where you ask: >> "Any suggestions to make it as secure as possible?" >> >> ...we might instead ask: >> "Any suggestions to make it as secure as *practical*?" >> >> ...or even: >> "Any suggestions to make it as secure as *cost-effective*?" >> >> There are always ways to make things more secure. The hard part is defining an appropriate level of effort relative to the importance of the secret. >> >> Consider this scale of 1 to 5, in terms of how hard people work to keep things secret: >> >> 1. My app's reg code >> 2. A user-defined password >> 3. A user's social security number >> 4. Nuclear secrets >> 5. Trump's tax returns >> >> If it's #1 I wouldn't spend more than half an hour thinking about it, for so many reasons covered in this list before. >> >> #2 is worth spending some time on, but better hashed than encrypted. >> >> #3 or above will require an understanding of the system to provide useful guidance. >> >> -- >> Richard Gaskin >> Fourth World Systems > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From ambassador at fourthworld.com Mon Jan 6 14:53:39 2020 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 11:53:39 -0800 Subject: Display PDF on Android In-Reply-To: <006001d5c4b6$205bd980$61138c80$@net> References: <006001d5c4b6$205bd980$61138c80$@net> Message-ID: <80a5e761-0f0a-aafd-7c68-a0e5bb4916e4@fourthworld.com> Ralph DiMola wrote: > ...because one can't open local files on a desktop browser. Oh? Most browsers except Firefox won't execute JavaScript from local files, but PFDs open in Firefox and Chrome here just fine. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From rdimola at evergreeninfo.net Mon Jan 6 15:57:38 2020 From: rdimola at evergreeninfo.net (Ralph DiMola) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 15:57:38 -0500 Subject: Display PDF on Android In-Reply-To: <80a5e761-0f0a-aafd-7c68-a0e5bb4916e4@fourthworld.com> References: <006001d5c4b6$205bd980$61138c80$@net> <80a5e761-0f0a-aafd-7c68-a0e5bb4916e4@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <008201d5c4d3$f0e6aa90$d2b3ffb0$@net> Correct, I misspoke. Running the JavaScript is the limitation on most desktop browsers. The reason for setting up the local web server is to be able to test pdfjs in the IDE. The browser widget is a Chromium codebase. This way one can tweak pdfjs and test in the IDE before deploying to Android. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdimola at evergreeninfo.net -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 2:54 PM To: use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Cc: Richard Gaskin Subject: Re: Display PDF on Android Ralph DiMola wrote: > ...because one can't open local files on a desktop browser. Oh? Most browsers except Firefox won't execute JavaScript from local files, but PFDs open in Firefox and Chrome here just fine. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From bvlahos at mac.com Mon Jan 6 19:01:40 2020 From: bvlahos at mac.com (Bill Vlahos) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 16:01:40 -0800 Subject: LiveCode won't recognize my stack In-Reply-To: <8547edb2-7750-a945-469d-6f9d31d91dae@fourthworld.com> References: <84191B7C-AE47-4647-AAF2-B2815A7EACE8@mac.com> <8547edb2-7750-a945-469d-6f9d31d91dae@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <280C4E53-9B38-4754-8164-CB37B2AC0BED@mac.com> Richard and Brian, I think you guys are on to something. The LiveCode open dialog filter is a different issue than actually being able to open the file as a stack. Thanks. For some reason my OpenStack handler in the Card script isn?t being triggered. This is causing a number of issues including failing to ?start using?? some library stacks and the one I reported here. I?m looking into that now. Thanks, Bill Vlahos > Have you tried addressing it via the full path? > > put the uProperty of stack ?/fullPathToFile/actualFileName? into tVar > > Thanks, > Brian > On Jan 1, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > Bill Vlahos wrote: >> Richard, >> I?m running the different versions of LiveCode on the same Mac and looking at the same file so I don?t think the OS is affecting this. >> I?m just asking if there is a stack with the correct name and getting ?false? as the answer if using LC 9.5.1. >> If I ask for ?file? and not ?stack? then the result is ?true?. >> The path to the LicenseKey.IW file is correct at: /Volumes/HP c310w/InfoWallet 1.4/Info Files >> Here is the error message: >> Executing at 4:47:43 PM on Tuesday, December 31, 2019 >> Type: Chunk: can't find stack >> Object: stack '/Volumes/HP c310w/InfoWallet 1.4/Info Files/InfoWallet.app/Contents/MacOS/InfoWallet' >> Line Num: 26 >> Hint: populateFileList >> Comments: I think LC must have changed how they are validating ?stack? in version 8 compared to version 7. > > > Maybe, but if so it's happening in a way not even Mark Waddingham is aware of (see his earlier post), and in ways I've never seen (and I do some weird things with stack files). > > Most interesting here is that "is a file" returns true while "is a stack" returns false. > > Were both of those tests run in the standalone? MacOS changed some aspects of how apps are allowed to address contents of its internal bundle folders a while back, but I would be surprised if those come into play only when testing "is a stack" but not "is a file". > > Is the stack file openable in the IDE? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > ____________________________________________________________________ > Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Mon Jan 6 19:23:32 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 18:23:32 -0600 Subject: Start using font Message-ID: <16f7d629ba0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> The dictionary says that fonts can only be embedded on desktop apps but I have a dim memory we could do it on mobile too. Has anyone done that? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From rdimola at evergreeninfo.net Mon Jan 6 20:21:51 2020 From: rdimola at evergreeninfo.net (Ralph DiMola) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 20:21:51 -0500 Subject: Start using font In-Reply-To: <16f7d629ba0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> References: <16f7d629ba0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <009701d5c4f8$da46e370$8ed4aa50$@net> I have a folder "Fonts" that I include in the "copy files" pane of the standalone settings. I put my fonts there. I don't think that the folder name matters. The fonts are automatically available. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdimola at evergreeninfo.net -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:24 PM To: LiveCode Mailing List Cc: J. Landman Gay Subject: Start using font The dictionary says that fonts can only be embedded on desktop apps but I have a dim memory we could do it on mobile too. Has anyone done that? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Mon Jan 6 22:17:23 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 21:17:23 -0600 Subject: Start using font In-Reply-To: <009701d5c4f8$da46e370$8ed4aa50$@net> References: <16f7d629ba0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> <009701d5c4f8$da46e370$8ed4aa50$@net> Message-ID: Thanks, I was hoping that was the case. So it's a dictionary error. Good. On 1/6/20 7:21 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > I have a folder "Fonts" that I include in the "copy files" pane of the > standalone settings. I put my fonts there. I don't think that the folder > name matters. The fonts are automatically available. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdimola at evergreeninfo.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:24 PM > To: LiveCode Mailing List > Cc: J. Landman Gay > Subject: Start using font > > The dictionary says that fonts can only be embedded on desktop apps but I > have a dim memory we could do it on mobile too. Has anyone done that? > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | > http://www.hyperactivesw.com -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From brahma at hindu.org Tue Jan 7 09:48:47 2020 From: brahma at hindu.org (Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 14:48:47 +0000 Subject: Start using font In-Reply-To: References: <16f7d629ba0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> <009701d5c4f8$da46e370$8ed4aa50$@net> Message-ID: <6BD1F00C-0615-47ED-8687-C459172427AD@hindu.org> Does that you don't have to "code/script" to access the fonts? Just putting them there (copy files) makes them available? Thanks, I was hoping that was the case. So it's a dictionary error. Good. On 1/6/20 7:21 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > I have a folder "Fonts" that I include in the "copy files" pane of the > standalone settings. I put my fonts there. I don't think that the folder > name matters. The fonts are automatically available. From brahma at hindu.org Tue Jan 7 10:18:44 2020 From: brahma at hindu.org (Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 15:18:44 +0000 Subject: Parent Group of the Target Message-ID: <633BAB22-C235-4C2D-A455-63C6CD169C20@hindu.org> I could have sworn we passed way before, but I can't find it anywhere on the list what is the most efficient was to get the name of the "Parent Group" of the target? Do we really have to parse this? widget id 67388 of group id 67392 of card id 8169 of stack "/Users/brahmanathaswami/Documents/_Siva-Siva-App/Siva-Siva-Portal.livecode" To get the name of "group id 67392" ? BR From dvglasgow at gmail.com Tue Jan 7 10:24:10 2020 From: dvglasgow at gmail.com (David V Glasgow) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 15:24:10 +0000 Subject: Parent Group of the Target In-Reply-To: <633BAB22-C235-4C2D-A455-63C6CD169C20@hindu.org> References: <633BAB22-C235-4C2D-A455-63C6CD169C20@hindu.org> Message-ID: <8C6D8668-74E9-43DA-8621-C455C6DC9CF8@gmail.com> The wonderful ?Owner? is the property you?re after, I think. Hope that is useful. If it is, possibly my first time! Best wishes, David Glasgow > On 7 Jan 2020, at 3:18 pm, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > > I could have sworn we passed way before, but I can't find it anywhere on the list > > what is the most efficient was to get the name of the "Parent Group" of the target? > > Do we really have to parse this? > > widget id 67388 of group id 67392 of card id 8169 of stack "/Users/brahmanathaswami/Documents/_Siva-Siva-App/Siva-Siva-Portal.livecode" > > To get the name of "group id 67392" > > ? > > BR > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From dan at clearvisiontech.com Tue Jan 7 10:25:47 2020 From: dan at clearvisiontech.com (Dan Friedman) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 15:25:47 +0000 Subject: Parent Group of the Target In-Reply-To: <633BAB22-C235-4C2D-A455-63C6CD169C20@hindu.org> References: <633BAB22-C235-4C2D-A455-63C6CD169C20@hindu.org> Message-ID: BR, Try "the owner of the target". Or, the long id of the owner of the target. Hope that helps. -Dan ?On 1/7/20, 7:20 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode" wrote: I could have sworn we passed way before, but I can't find it anywhere on the list what is the most efficient was to get the name of the "Parent Group" of the target? Do we really have to parse this? widget id 67388 of group id 67392 of card id 8169 of stack "/Users/brahmanathaswami/Documents/_Siva-Siva-App/Siva-Siva-Portal.livecode" To get the name of "group id 67392" ? BR _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From kaveh at rivervalleytechnologies.com Tue Jan 7 10:31:29 2020 From: kaveh at rivervalleytechnologies.com (Kaveh Bazargan) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 15:31:29 +0000 Subject: Parent Group of the Target In-Reply-To: References: <633BAB22-C235-4C2D-A455-63C6CD169C20@hindu.org> Message-ID: And for multiple groupings, .... the owner of the owner of the owner of.... On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:26, Dan Friedman via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > BR, > > Try "the owner of the target". Or, the long id of the owner of the > target. Hope that helps. > > -Dan > > > ?On 1/7/20, 7:20 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > via use-livecode" use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > I could have sworn we passed way before, but I can't find it anywhere > on the list > > what is the most efficient was to get the name of the "Parent Group" > of the target? > > Do we really have to parse this? > > widget id 67388 of group id 67392 of card id 8169 of stack > "/Users/brahmanathaswami/Documents/_Siva-Siva-App/Siva-Siva-Portal.livecode" > > To get the name of "group id 67392" > > ? > > BR > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Kaveh Bazargan PhD Director River Valley Technologies ? Twitter ? LinkedIn From rdimola at evergreeninfo.net Tue Jan 7 11:13:14 2020 From: rdimola at evergreeninfo.net (Ralph DiMola) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 11:13:14 -0500 Subject: Start using font In-Reply-To: <6BD1F00C-0615-47ED-8687-C459172427AD@hindu.org> References: <16f7d629ba0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> <009701d5c4f8$da46e370$8ed4aa50$@net> <6BD1F00C-0615-47ED-8687-C459172427AD@hindu.org> Message-ID: <003301d5c575$61006900$23013b00$@net> Yes. There are some lingering font issues from the 1990's (unbelievable). Sometimes a font families are combined sometime not. And sometimes the name is slightly different. Here's a function to enumerate all fonts and their styles. function FontInfo local fnames,fstyles,tlist put the fontnames into fnames sort fnames repeat for each line tfnt in fnames put "*"&tfnt&cr after tlist put the fontstyles(tfnt,0) into fstyles repeat for each line tsty in fstyles put space & tsty & cr after tlist end repeat end repeat delete char -1 in tlist return tlist end FontInfo Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdimola at evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 9:49 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami Subject: Re: Start using font Does that you don't have to "code/script" to access the fonts? Just putting them there (copy files) makes them available? Thanks, I was hoping that was the case. So it's a dictionary error. Good. On 1/6/20 7:21 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > I have a folder "Fonts" that I include in the "copy files" pane of the > standalone settings. I put my fonts there. I don't think that the > folder name matters. The fonts are automatically available. _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From brahma at hindu.org Tue Jan 7 12:44:38 2020 From: brahma at hindu.org (Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 17:44:38 +0000 Subject: Parent Group of the Target In-Reply-To: References: <633BAB22-C235-4C2D-A455-63C6CD169C20@hindu.org> Message-ID: aha! I was searching for "parent" Yes, "owner" is it. And for multiple groupings, .... the owner of the owner of the owner of.... From prothero at earthlearningsolutions.org Tue Jan 7 13:46:18 2020 From: prothero at earthlearningsolutions.org (prothero at earthlearningsolutions.org) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 10:46:18 -0800 Subject: Parent Group of the Target In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80C118D1-9278-4E66-8A29-55CED4F8587A@earthlearningsolutions.org> Folks, It would be very nice if there was a compilation of the various keywords and what each refers to. I know I?ve had to scratch my head to find words like the element, the target, the owner, the parent, etc. The names seem intuitive at some level, but each meaning is very specific and, for me at least, I wouldn?t think to call the group an object is in ?the owner?. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > > ?aha! I was searching for "parent" Yes, "owner" is it. > > And for multiple groupings, > > .... the owner of the owner of the owner of.... > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From brahma at hindu.org Tue Jan 7 14:06:43 2020 From: brahma at hindu.org (Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 19:06:43 +0000 Subject: Parent Group of the Target In-Reply-To: References: <633BAB22-C235-4C2D-A455-63C6CD169C20@hindu.org>

Message-ID: <477E394A-CAED-4546-B75E-34C47DEDEE47@hindu.org> @Bill P. ditto that "if there was a compilation of the various keywords and what each refers to". on mouseup put the short name of the owner of the target # where all you want it the "immediate" owner and not the card, stack end mouseUp # that was easy! And for multiple groupings, .... the owner of the owner of the owner of.... I suppose we could create function that uses " of " as a delimiter and turn this in an array... @ Kaveh wrote multiple groupings... may be good for visualization:" the target the target's owner the owner of target's owner From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Tue Jan 7 14:23:10 2020 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Drs Mark Schonewille) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:23:10 +0100 Subject: Keep trying Message-ID: <23f4ec1b-7c0e-6149-8469-59a6b8d47a05@economy-x-talk.com> Trying to send a message from my (blocked?) IP address. -- Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk https://ecxtalk.nl https://www.nt2.nu Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://www3.economy-x-talk.com/file.php?node=programming-livecode-for-the-real-beginner From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Tue Jan 7 14:25:57 2020 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Drs Mark Schonewille) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:25:57 +0100 Subject: Keep trying In-Reply-To: <23f4ec1b-7c0e-6149-8469-59a6b8d47a05@economy-x-talk.com> References: <23f4ec1b-7c0e-6149-8469-59a6b8d47a05@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: It worked :-) Sorry for the white noise. Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk https://ecxtalk.nl https://www.nt2.nu Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://www3.economy-x-talk.com/file.php?node=programming-livecode-for-the-real-beginner Op 1/7/2020 om 8:23 PM schreef Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode: > Trying to send a message from my (blocked?) IP address. > From sean at pidigital.co.uk Tue Jan 7 16:00:58 2020 From: sean at pidigital.co.uk (Pi Digital) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 21:00:58 +0000 Subject: Keep trying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BA7ACF6-EE39-4343-B610-A120F8132CF9@pidigital.co.uk> Forgiven :-D Sean Cole Pi Digital Prod Ltd > On 7 Jan 2020, at 19:25, Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode wrote: > > ?It worked :-) Sorry for the white noise. > > Mark Schonewille > Economy-x-Talk > https://ecxtalk.nl > https://www.nt2.nu > > Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner > http://www3.economy-x-talk.com/file.php?node=programming-livecode-for-the-real-beginner > > Op 1/7/2020 om 8:23 PM schreef Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode: >> Trying to send a message from my (blocked?) IP address. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From rdimola at evergreeninfo.net Tue Jan 7 16:11:32 2020 From: rdimola at evergreeninfo.net (Ralph DiMola) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 16:11:32 -0500 Subject: Keep trying In-Reply-To: References: <23f4ec1b-7c0e-6149-8469-59a6b8d47a05@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: <005201d5c59f$0cb973d0$262c5b70$@net> Why didn't I get a trigger warning? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdimola at evergreeninfo.net -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 2:26 PM To: Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode Cc: Drs Mark Schonewille Subject: Re: Keep trying It worked :-) Sorry for the white noise. Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk https://ecxtalk.nl https://www.nt2.nu Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://www3.economy-x-talk.com/file.php?node=programming-livecode-for-the-re al-beginner Op 1/7/2020 om 8:23 PM schreef Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode: > Trying to send a message from my (blocked?) IP address. > _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode at lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From livecode at pink.guru Tue Jan 7 21:25:07 2020 From: livecode at pink.guru (Greg (Pink) Miller) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 21:25:07 -0500 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack Message-ID: I have a script only stack that is the behavior of a stack that i wish to compile. When I compile it for Windows, I have a .livecodescript file in the folder. Is it possible to change that extension to .lcs So far all the shots at this I've taken end up appending .livecode to the end. Can this be changed somewhere? From ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Jan 7 21:41:08 2020 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 18:41:08 -0800 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05eadc3f-fe92-2c70-b8a1-67ff303a99ed@fourthworld.com> Greg (Pink) Miller wrote: > I have a script only stack that is the behavior of a stack that > i wish to compile. When I compile it for Windows, I have a .livecodescript file in the folder. Is it possible to change that > extension to .lcs > > So far all the shots at this I've taken end up appending .livecode to > the end. > > Can this be changed somewhere? In the file manager. But I'm guessing you knew that. So I'm guessing I don't understand the question. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Wed Jan 8 01:24:28 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 00:24:28 -0600 Subject: Start using font In-Reply-To: <009701d5c4f8$da46e370$8ed4aa50$@net> References: <16f7d629ba0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> <009701d5c4f8$da46e370$8ed4aa50$@net> Message-ID: <53e66e4c-a98c-c0a3-c7fa-912f013be75b@hyperactivesw.com> I think I see where I got misguided. "Start using font" is for desktop. The fontnames dictionary entry explains how to include fonts in the Copy Files pane in standalone settings. So if the fonts are included in the build, I don't need to "start using", they're available automatically. Which makes me wonder why I'd ever need "start using" at all. On 1/6/20 7:21 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > I have a folder "Fonts" that I include in the "copy files" pane of the > standalone settings. I put my fonts there. I don't think that the folder > name matters. The fonts are automatically available. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdimola at evergreeninfo.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:24 PM > To: LiveCode Mailing List > Cc: J. Landman Gay > Subject: Start using font > > The dictionary says that fonts can only be embedded on desktop apps but I > have a dim memory we could do it on mobile too. Has anyone done that? > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | > http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From williamdesmet at gmail.com Wed Jan 8 06:07:26 2020 From: williamdesmet at gmail.com (William de Smet) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 12:07:26 +0100 Subject: Requirements for private distribution on Apple Business Manager? Message-ID: Hi there, Is it possible with an Indy License to publish apps that are 'Available for private distribution to specific organizations on Apple Business Manager' ? Any other requirements? greetings, William From livecode at pink.guru Wed Jan 8 10:50:58 2020 From: livecode at pink.guru (Greg (Pink) Miller) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:50:58 -0500 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack Message-ID: I have my main stack "PanelManager.livecode" with a behavior script with a file name "panamana.lcs" Upon compiling for Windows, the script file gets included in the folder with the program but is renamed "panamana.lcs.livecode" I would prefer not to have ".livecode" appended onto it. > I have a script only stack that is the behavior of a stack that > i wish to compile. When I compile it for Windows, I have a .livecodescript file in the folder. Is it possible to change that > extension to .lcs > > So far all the shots at this I've taken end up appending .livecode to > the end. > > Can this be changed somewhere? In the file manager. But I'm guessing you knew that. So I'm guessing I don't understand the question. -- From livecode at pink.guru Wed Jan 8 10:54:49 2020 From: livecode at pink.guru (Greg (Pink) Miller) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:54:49 -0500 Subject: Mad Pink's Ultra Deluxe Control Panel Uber-Widget Message-ID: I've been meaning to share this with the community for a while, but life and work have been getting in the way. I haven't been able to work on it in a while I've been working on this widget for a while and it needs more work and testing. Actually, this started off as a group of individual widgets, but there was so much code overlap among them I decided to combine into one. There are a number of fixes I still need to take care of and a number of features I am still planning on adding. I am, however, already adding it to programs with success. Going forward, I am working hard not to make property or control changes that will break existing implementations (as we've all done in the past), I already have a few systems in place to prevent property calamities, so feel free to stat using if you like it. Releasing under CC BY-SA 4.0 license. This widget is a panel which can hold a variety of different kinds of controls, each individually customizable. Any number of controls can be added to the panel. Control types to date are: -Button bar/grid: groups of buttons that can be used as action buttons (posting a message), single selects (like radio buttons) or multiple selects (similar to checkboxes) -Button wheel: circular wheel with buttons and capabilities similar to the button bar -Switches: clicks a value true or false, animation pending, currently just looks like a checkbox -Sliders: you know, they slide and change a value -Progress bars: essentially sliders with a handle to grasp -Dialog/text box: one of those pesky little text displays telling you stuff -Numeric Up/Down Adjusters: a value with 2 buttons that increment or decrement said value There are default properties for each control that will be used, however each control (e.g. button, switch etc..) can be configured with its own colors, icons, fonts and such. Other features: -"Bottom buttons" (a group of up to 3 buttons at the bottom of the widget which can be used for "OK," "Cancel," and "Reset" type features. These buttons post a message to be scripted by the user) -Form backdrop (essentially a set of labels on which you can add fields) -Overlay mode (draws a box of a set size and then the rest of the widget is transparent/translucent... when stretched across the entire card it forces user input before anything else can be touched) -Controls, color schemes and properties can be saved and loaded as "sets" to allow one widget to quickly change what controls you are viewing -SVG paths can be stored for use in controls There are a plethora of other things I am working to add and enhance including: -allowing for a mix of control types in the same panel -control pages with tabs to navigate through them -Output display box, which can present some form of text, number, calculation etc.. when there is interaction on the control panel -need to find ways to optimize the code some more, especially in redrawing The widget can be found here: https://github.com/madpink/mp-livecode-controls In addition to the source code, I have a packaged extension file and added a "Control Test" stack which I've found helpful for trying to break things. There is a wiki with instructions which I would also love feedback on. I've already got a list of issues piling up as you will see. I have a planning board that is full of my own idiosyncrasies and may not be intelligible to normal people, so view at your own risk. So far I have only tested this widget in MacOS and Windows applications, I have not tried it out in Linux, Android or iOS apps. You can find my https://madpink.plutio.com/p/sgjnnwx7q7etcwpfg From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Wed Jan 8 10:57:34 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:57:34 +0000 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <554CAFEB-2333-4B64-BAF7-157AC9EA1155@iotecdigital.com> Get the properties of the file and change them there. The issue is that you have extensions hidden so Windows always assumes you want the default extension appended to whatever you type. In the MacOS it asks you if you want to change the dot extension. Bob S > On Jan 7, 2020, at 18:25 , Greg (Pink) Miller via use-livecode wrote: > > I have a script only stack that is the behavior of a stack that i wish to > compile. When I compile it for Windows, I have a .livecodescript file in > the folder. Is it possible to change that extension to .lcs > > So far all the shots at this I've taken end up appending .livecode to the > end. > > Can this be changed somewhere? From brian at milby7.com Wed Jan 8 10:58:03 2020 From: brian at milby7.com (Brian Milby) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:58:03 -0500 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> One option to eliminate the external file altogether would be to make it a substack prior to building. Thanks, Brian On Jan 8, 2020, 10:52 AM -0500, Greg (Pink) Miller via use-livecode , wrote: > I have my main stack "PanelManager.livecode" with a behavior script with a > file name "panamana.lcs" > > Upon compiling for Windows, the script file gets included in the folder > with the program but is renamed "panamana.lcs.livecode" > > I would prefer not to have ".livecode" appended onto it. > > > I have a script only stack that is the behavior of a stack that > > i wish to compile. When I compile it for Windows, I have a > .livecodescript file in the folder. Is it possible to change that > > extension to .lcs > > > > So far all the shots at this I've taken end up appending .livecode to > > the end. > > > > Can this be changed somewhere? > > In the file manager. But I'm guessing you knew that. So I'm guessing I > don't understand the question. > > -- > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From thatkeith at mac.com Wed Jan 8 13:09:23 2020 From: thatkeith at mac.com (Keith Martin) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 18:09:23 +0000 Subject: Start using font In-Reply-To: <53e66e4c-a98c-c0a3-c7fa-912f013be75b@hyperactivesw.com> References: <53e66e4c-a98c-c0a3-c7fa-912f013be75b@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <2CE19122-423A-4834-9F5B-CD5EFCA27806@mac.com> Personally, I?ve used it to make a font management tool for dealing with large font libraries. It?s not something ?fit for prime time? as it looks abysmal at the moment but it works. :) Keith Keith Martin Senior Lecturer, LCC (University of the Arts London) 360 media specialist http://PanoramaPhotographer.com Contact and info http://thatkeith.com +44 (0)7909541365 > On 8 Jan 2020, at 06:25, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > > ?I think I see where I got misguided. "Start using font" is for desktop. The fontnames dictionary entry explains how to include fonts in the Copy Files pane in standalone settings. So if the fonts are included in the build, I don't need to "start using", they're available automatically. > > Which makes me wonder why I'd ever need "start using" at all. > >> On 1/6/20 7:21 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: >> I have a folder "Fonts" that I include in the "copy files" pane of the >> standalone settings. I put my fonts there. I don't think that the folder >> name matters. The fonts are automatically available. >> Ralph DiMola >> IT Director >> Evergreen Information Services >> rdimola at evergreeninfo.net >> -----Original Message----- >> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf >> Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode >> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:24 PM >> To: LiveCode Mailing List >> Cc: J. Landman Gay >> Subject: Start using font >> The dictionary says that fonts can only be embedded on desktop apps but I >> have a dim memory we could do it on mobile too. Has anyone done that? >> -- >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | >> http://www.hyperactivesw.com >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From ahsoftware at sonic.net Wed Jan 8 13:26:53 2020 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:26:53 -0800 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> References: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> Message-ID: On 1/8/20 7:58 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: > One option to eliminate the external file altogether would be to make it a substack prior to building. I have a PR in progress to allow script-only stacks to be substacks. It's currently partially working. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Wed Jan 8 13:37:37 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 12:37:37 -0600 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: References: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> Message-ID: <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Is there a reason not to just put the script into a button and set the stack behavior to that? That's what I do when I don't want extra files in my build. Sometimes the old ways are best. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 8, 2020 12:28:44 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > On 1/8/20 7:58 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: >> One option to eliminate the external file altogether would be to make it a >> substack prior to building. > > I have a PR in progress to allow script-only stacks to be substacks. > It's currently partially working. > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftware at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From mkoob at rogers.com Wed Jan 8 14:17:43 2020 From: mkoob at rogers.com (Martin Koob) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 14:17:43 -0500 Subject: Mad Pink's Ultra Deluxe Control Panel Uber-Widget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Greg This sounds great! It could be something I could use so I wanted to try it out. I downloaded the files and tried to install the packaged widget pink.mad.controlpanelbeta.0.9.57.lce It appeared to be installed in the tools palette but I can?t drag the widget to a stack nor install it with the menu item Object > New Widget > MPUberControlPanel? I tried the stack ?Control Test? to see if that would load the widget or give an error saying it can?t find the widget. The stack opened but clicking on the buttons on the left side of the stack only seem to open the script editor. Perhaps I have not installed this correctly. Are there other files that have to be installed or included? Thanks Martin > On Jan 8, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Greg (Pink) Miller via use-livecode wrote: > > The widget can be found here: > https://github.com/madpink/mp-livecode-controls > > In addition to the source code, I have a packaged extension file and added > a "Control Test" stack which I've found helpful for trying to break things. From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Wed Jan 8 14:46:48 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 19:46:48 +0000 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> References: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: +1 from an old guy. :-) Bob S > On Jan 8, 2020, at 10:37 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > > Is there a reason not to just put the script into a button and set the stack behavior to that? That's what I do when I don't want extra files in my build. > > Sometimes the old ways are best. > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From livecode at pink.guru Wed Jan 8 14:58:05 2020 From: livecode at pink.guru (Greg (Pink) Miller) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 14:58:05 -0500 Subject: Mad Pink's Ultra Deluxe Control Panel Uber-Widget In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: > > That is interesting. I use PowerTools instead of the built-in tool bar so > I had never noticed that. (It works with PowerTools, a highly recommended > plugin.) When I switch to the built-in toolbar, it does not drag over. For > me, going through the New Widget menu did work on both Mac and Windoze. > > The ControlTester stack is used in conjunction with the extension builder. > It looks for and configures the widget from the builder's test window. (I > should probably write that in somewhere). > > I added a stack "Test After Installation.livecode" to Github which > contains the widget, and has the same name as the builder test window, so > it will work in conjunction with ControlTester for tinkering. Please let me > know if that doesn't work in the meantime while I try and figure out the > rest. > > Does anyone know why a widget wouldn't be draggable onto a stack from the > toolbar? > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 2:17 PM Martin Koob > wrote: > >> Hi Greg >> >> This sounds great! It could be something I could use so I wanted to >> try it out. I downloaded the files and tried to install the packaged widget >> pink.mad.controlpanelbeta.0.9.57.lce >> >> It appeared to be installed in the tools palette but I can?t drag the >> widget to a stack nor install it with the menu item Object > New Widget > >> MPUberControlPanel? >> >> I tried the stack ?Control Test? to see if that would load the widget or >> give an error saying it can?t find the widget. The stack opened but >> clicking on the buttons on the left side of the stack only seem to open the >> script editor. >> >> Perhaps I have not installed this correctly. Are there other files that >> have to be installed or included? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> >> > From livecode at pink.guru Wed Jan 8 15:16:30 2020 From: livecode at pink.guru (Greg (Pink) Miller) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:16:30 -0500 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> References: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: I could just copy the script into the stack script at build time, but I was hoping not to. Here's the story... this particular program is being developed on a painfully old and slow machine. Livecode's script editor works horribly on this machine, there is a horrible lag in typing and cutting, copying and pasting are at best hit or miss. Using an external program to edit the main script is the only productive way to edit. I was hoping not to have to switch around too much at compile time, especially if I have to undo it when going back to editing. Being able to change the extension for script in the built version would be the best option. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 1:37 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Is there a reason not to just put the script into a button and set the > stack behavior to that? That's what I do when I don't want extra files in > my build. > > Sometimes the old ways are best. > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > On January 8, 2020 12:28:44 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > > On 1/8/20 7:58 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: > >> One option to eliminate the external file altogether would be to make > it a > >> substack prior to building. > > > > I have a PR in progress to allow script-only stacks to be substacks. > > It's currently partially working. > > > > -- > > Mark Wieder > > ahsoftware at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From mail at richard-hillen.de Wed Jan 8 15:54:58 2020 From: mail at richard-hillen.de (Hillen Richard) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 21:54:58 +0100 Subject: Livecode 9.5, BrowserWidget, Community Edition Message-ID: <0B98DADC-842E-410A-934E-9D4747E0AB5C@richard-hillen.de> Hello, I want to show a .pdf with url httpAdress, so I got a fresh widget named ?Browser? and did a button with the script on mouseup put "https://programmausdruck.br.de/radio/br-klassik/programmkalender/br-klassik120.jsp?day=2020-01-09" into httpAdress set the url of widget "Browser" to httpAdress end mouseup After mouseup download starts, stops, but nothing is to see in the browser window. Why? May you help? Thank you, Richard. From klaus at major-k.de Wed Jan 8 16:04:38 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 22:04:38 +0100 Subject: Livecode 9.5, BrowserWidget, Community Edition In-Reply-To: <0B98DADC-842E-410A-934E-9D4747E0AB5C@richard-hillen.de> References: <0B98DADC-842E-410A-934E-9D4747E0AB5C@richard-hillen.de> Message-ID: Hi Richard, > Am 08.01.2020 um 21:54 schrieb Hillen Richard via use-livecode : > > Hello, > > I want to show a .pdf with url httpAdress, so I got a fresh widget named ?Browser? and did a button with the script > on mouseup > put "https://programmausdruck.br.de/radio/br-klassik/programmkalender/br-klassik120.jsp?day=2020-01-09" into httpAdress > set the url of widget "Browser" to httpAdress > end mouseup > After mouseup download starts, stops, but nothing is to see in the browser window. Why? > May you help? just tested the script with LC 9.5.1 (Indy) on my Mac and works as exspected: BR-Klassik - das Programm ... > Thank you, > Richard. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de Wed Jan 8 16:26:58 2020 From: matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de (Matthias Rebbe) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 22:26:58 +0100 Subject: Livecode 9.5, BrowserWidget, Community Edition In-Reply-To: <0B98DADC-842E-410A-934E-9D4747E0AB5C@richard-hillen.de> References: <0B98DADC-842E-410A-934E-9D4747E0AB5C@richard-hillen.de> Message-ID: Richard, I can confirm it here. Tried with LC 9.5.1 and 9.6.0 DP1 Business on Mac and i also do not see anything. But here it get?s even worse. As it seems the PDF is created on the fly in your link i tried to use "existing" PDFs. If i use an URL which links to a local file on my hard disk or to an existing PDF on a webserver then LC even crashes here completely. Tried with LC 8.1.7. With 8.1.7 your URL and also my local and remote URL work. So here at least i have a problem with LC 9.5x and 9.6.x Tried again after deleting my preference file but this does not solve it for 9.5/9.6. Hm....? Matthias Matthias Rebbe free tools for Livecoders: InstaMaker WinSignMaker Mac > Am 08.01.2020 um 21:54 schrieb Hillen Richard via use-livecode >: > > Hello, > > I want to show a .pdf with url httpAdress, so I got a fresh widget named ?Browser? and did a button with the script > > on mouseup > > put "https://programmausdruck.br.de/radio/br-klassik/programmkalender/br-klassik120.jsp?day=2020-01-09 " into httpAdress > > set the url of widget "Browser" to httpAdress > > end mouseup > > > After mouseup download starts, stops, but nothing is to see in the browser window. Why? > > May you help? > > Thank you, > Richard. > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Wed Jan 8 18:33:31 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:33:31 -0600 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: References: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <4584ce3e-67cf-9ba8-9244-e730c55ea1ee@hyperactivesw.com> Aha. You old edge-case, you. :) On 1/8/20 2:16 PM, Greg (Pink) Miller via use-livecode wrote: > I could just copy the script into the stack script at build time, but I was > hoping not to. > > Here's the story... this particular program is being developed on a > painfully old and slow machine. Livecode's script editor works horribly on > this machine, there is a horrible lag in typing and cutting, copying and > pasting are at best hit or miss. Using an external program to edit the main > script is the only productive way to edit. I was hoping not to have to > switch around too much at compile time, especially if I have to undo it > when going back to editing. > > Being able to change the extension for script in the built version would be > the best option. > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 1:37 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Is there a reason not to just put the script into a button and set the >> stack behavior to that? That's what I do when I don't want extra files in >> my build. >> >> Sometimes the old ways are best. >> -- >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >> On January 8, 2020 12:28:44 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >>> On 1/8/20 7:58 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: >>>> One option to eliminate the external file altogether would be to make >> it a >>>> substack prior to building. >>> >>> I have a PR in progress to allow script-only stacks to be substacks. >>> It's currently partially working. >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Wieder >>> ahsoftware at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From mkoob at rogers.com Thu Jan 9 15:00:55 2020 From: mkoob at rogers.com (Martin Koob) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 15:00:55 -0500 Subject: Mad Pink's Ultra Deluxe Control Panel Uber-Widget In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi Greg Thanks for the tester stack. Once I opened that then I could place widgets using the object menu > New Widget > MPUberControlPanel. I still can?t drag the icon from the built in tools palette to a stack yet. ( I have not tried with Power tools but thanks for that tip. I am going to try it out.) I have been poking around trying to figure out how it works. I am interested in the ?mixed controls? option with buttons sliders etc. to create a horizontal tool bar. I created a control with 5 columns and 5 controls but it seems that current all controls have to be the same size. Are you thinking of have a width key in the Controls array so you could set some controls as wider i.e. a slider would be wider than a button. I was trying to set the controls in the toolbar to have different icons with some success. But entering the name of a different icon in the control?s array can result in syntax errors and the controls disappearing. I know this is in beta state. If I have time at some point to poke around more I will see if I can create with this widget. Thanks for your work on this. Regards, Martin Koob > On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Greg (Pink) Miller via use-livecode wrote: > >> I added a stack "Test After Installation.livecode" to Github which >> contains the widget, and has the same name as the builder test window, so >> it will work in conjunction with ControlTester for tinkering. Please let me >> know if that doesn't work in the meantime while I try and figure out the >> rest. From livecode at pink.guru Thu Jan 9 16:36:25 2020 From: livecode at pink.guru (Greg (Pink) Miller) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:36:25 -0500 Subject: Mad Pink's Ultra Deluxe Control Panel Uber-Widget In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: the mixed control set is most definitely still in progress... even when configured correctly it has bugs in the way user input works I hadn't thought of a width property, but it's a good idea if you can give me a step by step of how you got errors with the icons, it would be helpful THANKS! On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 3:00 PM Martin Koob via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Greg > > Thanks for the tester stack. Once I opened that then I could place > widgets using the object menu > New Widget > MPUberControlPanel. > > I still can?t drag the icon from the built in tools palette to a stack > yet. ( I have not tried with Power tools but thanks for that tip. I am > going to try it out.) > > I have been poking around trying to figure out how it works. I am > interested in the ?mixed controls? option with buttons sliders etc. to > create a horizontal tool bar. I created a control with 5 columns and 5 > controls but it seems that current all controls have to be the same size. > Are you thinking of have a width key in the Controls array so you could > set some controls as wider i.e. a slider would be wider than a button. > > I was trying to set the controls in the toolbar to have different icons > with some success. But entering the name of a different icon in the > control?s array can result in syntax errors and the controls disappearing. > I know this is in beta state. If I have time at some point to poke around > more I will see if I can create with this widget. > > Thanks for your work on this. > > Regards, > > Martin Koob > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Greg (Pink) Miller via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> I added a stack "Test After Installation.livecode" to Github which > >> contains the widget, and has the same name as the builder test window, > so > >> it will work in conjunction with ControlTester for tinkering. Please > let me > >> know if that doesn't work in the meantime while I try and figure out the > >> rest. > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From klaus at major-k.de Fri Jan 10 14:35:59 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:35:59 +0100 Subject: Littel Arrows Message-ID: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> Hi friends, with "Litte Arrows" when you click the LOWER arrow, the "scrollbarLineInc" is sent. When you click the UPPER arrow, then the "scrollbarLineDec" message is sent. Does not seem logical to me. Shouldn't that be vice versa? Any insight appreciated, thank you! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From sundown at pacifier.com Fri Jan 10 14:39:44 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:39:44 -0800 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> Message-ID: <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> I am not using the same version as you so I cannot see the arrows but when I consider a text field with a lower and upper arrow my first though is if I click the lower arrow it will increment the lines in the text field and if I click the upper arrow it will decrement the lines in the text field. Like I said I cannot see your arrows so this logic may be illogical in the situation you are using. JB > On Jan 10, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > > Hi friends, > > with "Litte Arrows" when you click the LOWER arrow, > the "scrollbarLineInc" is sent. > > When you click the UPPER arrow, then the "scrollbarLineDec" > message is sent. > > Does not seem logical to me. Shouldn't that be vice versa? > > Any insight appreciated, thank you! > > > Best > > Klaus > -- > Klaus Major > https://www.major-k.de > klaus at major-k.de > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From klaus at major-k.de Fri Jan 10 14:47:31 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:47:31 +0100 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Hi JB, > Am 10.01.2020 um 20:39 schrieb JB via use-livecode : > > I am not using the same version as you so I cannot see > the arrows ??? This has been the case since version 1! > but when I consider a text field with a lower > and upper arrow my first though is if I click the lower > arrow it will increment the lines in the text field and if > I click the upper arrow it will decrement the lines in the > text field. Check the Inspector of any scrollbar to see a working example of what I mean. > Like I said I cannot see your arrows so this logic may > be illogical in the situation you are using. > > JB Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From sundown at pacifier.com Fri Jan 10 14:58:28 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:58:28 -0800 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Hi Klaus, I just checked the little arrow scrollbar in version 4.6. If I add a field and then I add a little arrow scrollbar on the right side to advance through the text then my first thought is to click on the lower arrow to advance the lines of text and the upper arrow to move the lines of text towards line one. I must be confused on what you are saying so if it is not the same for you just ignore my response. Sorry about that. JB > On Jan 10, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > > Hi JB, > >> Am 10.01.2020 um 20:39 schrieb JB via use-livecode : >> >> I am not using the same version as you so I cannot see >> the arrows > > ??? > > This has been the case since version 1! > >> but when I consider a text field with a lower >> and upper arrow my first though is if I click the lower >> arrow it will increment the lines in the text field and if >> I click the upper arrow it will decrement the lines in the >> text field. > > Check the Inspector of any scrollbar to see a working example > of what I mean. > >> Like I said I cannot see your arrows so this logic may >> be illogical in the situation you are using. >> >> JB > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > https://www.major-k.de > klaus at major-k.de > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From jjs at krutt.org Fri Jan 10 15:03:34 2020 From: jjs at krutt.org (Jjs) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 21:03:34 +0100 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com>

Message-ID: <8F9AD836-A982-43AD-938A-40B7499C7258@krutt.org> If you click the upper, the line goes down, so it looks like you are going up. And vice versa. In that way it makes sense. JB via use-livecode schreef op 10 januari 2020 20:58:28 CET: >Hi Klaus, > >I just checked the little arrow scrollbar in version 4.6. If I add a >field and then I add a little arrow scrollbar on the right side to >advance through the text then my first thought is to click on the >lower arrow to advance the lines of text and the upper arrow to >move the lines of text towards line one. > >I must be confused on what you are saying so if it is not the >same for you just ignore my response. Sorry about that. > >JB > > >> On Jan 10, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode > wrote: >> >> Hi JB, >> >>> Am 10.01.2020 um 20:39 schrieb JB via use-livecode >: >>> >>> I am not using the same version as you so I cannot see >>> the arrows >> >> ??? >> >> This has been the case since version 1! >> >>> but when I consider a text field with a lower >>> and upper arrow my first though is if I click the lower >>> arrow it will increment the lines in the text field and if >>> I click the upper arrow it will decrement the lines in the >>> text field. >> >> Check the Inspector of any scrollbar to see a working example >> of what I mean. >> >>> Like I said I cannot see your arrows so this logic may >>> be illogical in the situation you are using. >>> >>> JB >> >> Best >> >> Klaus >> >> -- >> Klaus Major >> https://www.major-k.de >> klaus at major-k.de >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > >_______________________________________________ >use-livecode mailing list >use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Fri Jan 10 15:08:04 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:08:04 -0600 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> On 1/10/20 1:47 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > This has been the case since version 1! Yes, back before Apple encouraged us to reverse the behavior to make Macs act more like iPhones. And I think on Windows and Linux it still acts as before. Imagine a scrolling field with its scroll set to zero. Click underneath the thumb, or if you're not on Mac, click the lower down arrow. The field scrolls one increment (page or line) and now its scroll is no longer zero, it has incremented by one lineheight or pageheight. Click the top arrow, or click above the thumb, and the field scroll decrements back to zero. When Apple decided to make us use fields like mobile apps do, the behavior reversed. I never did get used to that so I've kept my Mac scrollers the old way. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From klaus at major-k.de Fri Jan 10 15:18:58 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 21:18:58 +0100 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <60B6F996-7977-4A86-898D-6D7138AB30BF@major-k.de> Hi all, > Am 10.01.2020 um 21:08 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode : > > On 1/10/20 1:47 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> This has been the case since version 1! > > Yes, back before Apple encouraged us to reverse the behavior to make Macs act more like iPhones. And I think on Windows and Linux it still acts as before. > > Imagine a scrolling field with its scroll set to zero. Click underneath the thumb, or if you're not on Mac, click the lower down arrow. The field scrolls one increment (page or line) and now its scroll is no longer zero, it has incremented by one lineheight or pageheight. > > Click the top arrow, or click above the thumb, and the field scroll decrements back to zero. > > When Apple decided to make us use fields like mobile apps do, the behavior reversed. I never did get used to that so I've kept my Mac scrollers the old way. "Little Arrows" work differently than a "normal" scrollbar. e.G. if you enter an ENDVALUE and STARVALUE in the inspector, the "littel Arrows" object gets DISABLED and does not work anymore and the possible parameter "pNewPosition" does not have any meaning with "Littel Arrows". Therefore one need to set these values back to 0 and script something like (for my ecamp0le to IN/DEcrease a field value by one): ------------------------------------------------------ on scrollbarLineInc if fld 2 > 1 then ## We canot go lower than 1 subtract 1 from fld 2 end if end scrollbarLineInc on scrollbarLineDec if fld 2 < 11 then ## We cannot go higher than 10 add 1 to fld 2 end if end scrollbarLineDec ## See the "swapped" scripting, which is neccessary for my example. -------------------------------------------------------- > Jacqueline Landman Gay Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From jerry at jhjensen.com Fri Jan 10 15:40:57 2020 From: jerry at jhjensen.com (Jerry Jensen) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 12:40:57 -0800 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <6978BE7B-B9BF-4CB8-B782-750CF7A5A43C@jhjensen.com> I?m with you on that one. Apple calls the new way ?Natural? (!). Not to me after 35 years of the old way. .Jerry > On Jan 10, 2020, at 12:08 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > > > When Apple decided to make us use fields like mobile apps do, the behavior reversed. I never did get used to that so I've kept my Mac scrollers the old way. From sundown at pacifier.com Fri Jan 10 15:56:23 2020 From: sundown at pacifier.com (JB) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 12:56:23 -0800 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: <6978BE7B-B9BF-4CB8-B782-750CF7A5A43C@jhjensen.com> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> <6978BE7B-B9BF-4CB8-B782-750CF7A5A43C@jhjensen.com> Message-ID: <0A8F7A0F-C1F2-4574-8076-278BC9DAD73C@pacifier.com> Is the logic that if I touched on a line in a field and moved that line up the lines would increment but if I clicked on the upper arrow the lines would decrement? If so then the logic seems okay to me. I do not have a mobile device so my thinking could be completely wrong. JB > On Jan 10, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode wrote: > > I?m with you on that one. Apple calls the new way ?Natural? (!). Not to me after 35 years of the old way. > .Jerry > >> On Jan 10, 2020, at 12:08 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: >> >> >> When Apple decided to make us use fields like mobile apps do, the behavior reversed. I never did get used to that so I've kept my Mac scrollers the old way. > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From klaus at major-k.de Fri Jan 10 16:03:06 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 22:03:06 +0100 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: <0A8F7A0F-C1F2-4574-8076-278BC9DAD73C@pacifier.com> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> <6978BE7B-B9BF-4CB8-B782-750CF7A5A43C@jhjensen.com> <0A8F7A0F-C1F2-4574-8076-278BC9DAD73C@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <2E83984F-22D8-444C-B5D5-2DEE7379D97B@major-k.de> Hi JB, > Am 10.01.2020 um 21:56 schrieb JB via use-livecode : > > Is the logic that if I touched on a line in a field and moved > that line up the lines would increment but if I clicked on > the upper arrow the lines would decrement? If so then > the logic seems okay to me. > > I do not have a mobile device so my thinking could be > completely wrong. I also do not have any mobile devide, no cellphone or tablet, so no idea how that is supposed to work there. But since "Little Arrows" is just a variant of the "scrollbar" object, maybe that is in fact "correct" (for a SCROLLBAR) behavior. > JB Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From ahsoftware at sonic.net Fri Jan 10 16:22:32 2020 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:22:32 -0800 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: <60B6F996-7977-4A86-898D-6D7138AB30BF@major-k.de> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> <60B6F996-7977-4A86-898D-6D7138AB30BF@major-k.de> Message-ID: On 1/10/20 12:18 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > "Little Arrows" work differently than a "normal" scrollbar. > e.G. if you enter an ENDVALUE and STARVALUE in the inspector, the "littel Arrows" > object gets DISABLED and does not work anymore and the possible parameter > "pNewPosition" does not have any meaning with "Littel Arrows". You really wanna get confused, try using the little arrows in the property inspector to adjust the location or dimensions of a control. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From brian at milby7.com Fri Jan 10 16:25:22 2020 From: brian at milby7.com (Brian Milby) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 16:25:22 -0500 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: <2E83984F-22D8-444C-B5D5-2DEE7379D97B@major-k.de> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> <6978BE7B-B9BF-4CB8-B782-750CF7A5A43C@jhjensen.com> <0A8F7A0F-C1F2-4574-8076-278BC9DAD73C@pacifier.com> <2E83984F-22D8-444C-B5D5-2DEE7379D97B@major-k.de> Message-ID: <6fd94dd9-30c1-4e7c-a73c-0887dbcfd3e9@Spark> The disconnect is that on a mobile you touch the content and move it directly. ?If you grab the scroll bar and drag it, the content moves the opposite direction. ?On a computer?s touch device/scroll wheel, natural scrolling moves the content like mobile (think two finger swipe). ?The old way it would move the scroll bar and be ?backwards?. Thanks, Brian On Jan 10, 2020, 4:03 PM -0500, Klaus major-k via use-livecode , wrote: > Hi JB, > > > Am 10.01.2020 um 21:56 schrieb JB via use-livecode : > > > > Is the logic that if I touched on a line in a field and moved > > that line up the lines would increment but if I clicked on > > the upper arrow the lines would decrement? If so then > > the logic seems okay to me. > > > > I do not have a mobile device so my thinking could be > > completely wrong. > > I also do not have any mobile devide, no cellphone or tablet, so no > idea how that is supposed to work there. > > But since "Little Arrows" is just a variant of the "scrollbar" object, maybe > that is in fact "correct" (for a SCROLLBAR) behavior. > > > JB > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > https://www.major-k.de > klaus at major-k.de > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From rdimola at evergreeninfo.net Fri Jan 10 17:29:39 2020 From: rdimola at evergreeninfo.net (Ralph DiMola) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 17:29:39 -0500 Subject: NavBar Widget In-Reply-To: <6fd94dd9-30c1-4e7c-a73c-0887dbcfd3e9@Spark> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> <6978BE7B-B9BF-4CB8-B782-750CF7A5A43C@jhjensen.com> <0A8F7A0F-C1F2-4574-8076-278BC9DAD73C@pacifier.com> <2E83984F-22D8-444C-B5D5-2DEE7379D97B@major-k.de> <6fd94dd9-30c1-4e7c-a73c-0887dbcfd3e9@Spark> Message-ID: <006101d5c805$74e82420$5eb86c60$@net> I made 4 changes to the navbar widget. 1) The hiliteditem can be set to zero so no item is hilited 2) The default is no item hilited (hiliteditem = 0) 3) The inspector allows you to decrement the select item index to zero. 4) If the label of an item is a single space then the icon is centered vertically. I will see how to add this feature more elegantly as a property. If you need any of these features the link to the lcb file is here ==> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3emxyjx487xp9j2/navbar.lcb?dl=0 Now I have to figure out how to change the docs and submit a pull request. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdimola at evergreeninfo.net From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Fri Jan 10 17:35:12 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 16:35:12 -0600 Subject: Littel Arrows In-Reply-To: <60B6F996-7977-4A86-898D-6D7138AB30BF@major-k.de> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> <60B6F996-7977-4A86-898D-6D7138AB30BF@major-k.de> Message-ID: <138df945-3e78-d1e0-ac6a-0bac400b0b04@hyperactivesw.com> On 1/10/20 2:18 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > "Little Arrows" work differently than a "normal" scrollbar. > e.G. if you enter an ENDVALUE and STARVALUE in the inspector, the "littel Arrows" > object gets DISABLED and does not work anymore and the possible parameter > "pNewPosition" does not have any meaning with "Littel Arrows". I noticed that too, it seems to be a bug. If you use the little arrows (heh) in the Inspector then the values stick. I tried scripting the math to reverse the behavior so that the arrows didn't go "backwards" but wasn't able to wrap my head around it. So I looked at LC's object library to see how they did it, and they're using the same method you used in your forum reply -- they just add or subtract 1 from a field. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From brian at milby7.com Fri Jan 10 17:47:18 2020 From: brian at milby7.com (Brian Milby) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 17:47:18 -0500 Subject: NavBar Widget In-Reply-To: <006101d5c805$74e82420$5eb86c60$@net> References: <03846DE0-0C88-4989-9C01-A35FF42FCAA7@major-k.de> <0779FF5F-CFB4-4A9D-A59B-5D6E9E09CABF@pacifier.com> <2d0a6588-d5c1-68e7-a43f-811d80a8dc72@hyperactivesw.com> <6978BE7B-B9BF-4CB8-B782-750CF7A5A43C@jhjensen.com> <0A8F7A0F-C1F2-4574-8076-278BC9DAD73C@pacifier.com> <2E83984F-22D8-444C-B5D5-2DEE7379D97B@major-k.de> <6fd94dd9-30c1-4e7c-a73c-0887dbcfd3e9@Spark> <006101d5c805$74e82420$5eb86c60$@net> Message-ID: <7cd0f431-6f41-49fa-861f-1ee9fd8f4114@Spark> Item 1 is already submitted as a PR. I would avoid changing default behavior in the actual product though. Thanks, Brian On Jan 10, 2020, 5:27 PM -0500, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode , wrote: > I made 4 changes to the navbar widget. > > 1) The hiliteditem can be set to zero so no item is hilited > 2) The default is no item hilited (hiliteditem = 0) > 3) The inspector allows you to decrement the select item index to zero. > 4) If the label of an item is a single space then the icon is centered vertically. I will see how to add this feature more elegantly as a property. > > If you need any of these features the link to the lcb file is here ==> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3emxyjx487xp9j2/navbar.lcb?dl=0 > > Now I have to figure out how to change the docs and submit a pull request. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdimola at evergreeninfo.net > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From ludovic.thebault at laposte.net Sat Jan 11 09:38:42 2020 From: ludovic.thebault at laposte.net (Ludovic THEBAULT) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 15:38:42 +0100 Subject: Focus on customproperty inspector Message-ID: <6E11FB53-9550-4177-AC3D-250ECD3C539C@laposte.net> Hello, With livecode 9.6 I have a strange behavior, when the custom property inspector is open, and the script window is open too, the focus shifts from time to time to the property title (which I previously displayed). If I don't pay attention, I replace the property title with the script I'm writing! With LV 9.0, I didn't notice this behavior. I?m the only one with this bug ? Thanks (and Happy New year !) ! Ludovic From klaus at major-k.de Sat Jan 11 09:45:53 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 15:45:53 +0100 Subject: Focus on customproperty inspector In-Reply-To: <6E11FB53-9550-4177-AC3D-250ECD3C539C@laposte.net> References: <6E11FB53-9550-4177-AC3D-250ECD3C539C@laposte.net> Message-ID: <993F8A88-3985-4588-A777-141A4C2F9C91@major-k.de> Bonjour Ludovic, > Am 11.01.2020 um 15:38 schrieb Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode : > > Hello, > > With livecode 9.6 I have a strange behavior, when the custom property inspector is open, and the script window is open too, the focus shifts from time to time to the property title (which I previously displayed). If I don't pay attention, I replace the property title with the script I'm writing! > With LV 9.0, I didn't notice this behavior. > I?m the only one with this bug ? > > Thanks (and Happy New year !) ! this is a known bug (since LC 9.5.x?) and already reported. Happy new year to you, too! :-) > Ludovic Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From klaus at major-k.de Sat Jan 11 09:55:13 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 15:55:13 +0100 Subject: PDF widget for INDY Message-ID: <74A3346D-8CF5-44AB-9A6F-CC29C551A196@major-k.de> Hi all, just made an enhancement request to make the PDF widget (external?) avaiblable for INDY too, maybe for a reasonable (sic! :-) fee. Feel free to add a comment. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From ludovic.thebault at laposte.net Sat Jan 11 10:34:28 2020 From: ludovic.thebault at laposte.net (Ludovic THEBAULT) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 16:34:28 +0100 Subject: Focus on customproperty inspector In-Reply-To: <993F8A88-3985-4588-A777-141A4C2F9C91@major-k.de> References: <6E11FB53-9550-4177-AC3D-250ECD3C539C@laposte.net> <993F8A88-3985-4588-A777-141A4C2F9C91@major-k.de> Message-ID: > Le 11 janv. 2020 ? 15:45, Klaus major-k via use-livecode a ?crit : > > Bonjour Ludovic, > >> Am 11.01.2020 um 15:38 schrieb Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode : >> >> Hello, >> >> With livecode 9.6 I have a strange behavior, when the custom property inspector is open, and the script window is open too, the focus shifts from time to time to the property title (which I previously displayed). If I don't pay attention, I replace the property title with the script I'm writing! >> With LV 9.0, I didn't notice this behavior. >> I?m the only one with this bug ? >> >> Thanks (and Happy New year !) ! > > this is a known bug (since LC 9.5.x?) and already reported. > Thanks. From jjs at krutt.org Sat Jan 11 13:23:41 2020 From: jjs at krutt.org (Jjs) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:23:41 +0100 Subject: Focus on customproperty inspector In-Reply-To: <6E11FB53-9550-4177-AC3D-250ECD3C539C@laposte.net> References: <6E11FB53-9550-4177-AC3D-250ECD3C539C@laposte.net> Message-ID: <10E3F37A-6B87-4C02-8992-57751FD3EC23@krutt.org> Happy new year! On which platform do you run the ide? Perhaps there is a difference on win or mac or linux Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode schreef op 11 januari 2020 15:38:42 CET: >Hello, > >With livecode 9.6 I have a strange behavior, when the custom property >inspector is open, and the script window is open too, the focus shifts >from time to time to the property title (which I previously displayed). >If I don't pay attention, I replace the property title with the script >I'm writing! > >With LV 9.0, I didn't notice this behavior. > >I?m the only one with this bug ? > >Thanks (and Happy New year !) ! > >Ludovic >_______________________________________________ >use-livecode mailing list >use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. From Bernd.Niggemann at uni-wh.de Sat Jan 11 16:02:04 2020 From: Bernd.Niggemann at uni-wh.de (Niggemann, Bernd) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 21:02:04 +0000 Subject: Focus on customproperty inspector In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B76FE80-EAFD-45B0-AF5B-225072A802AC@uni-wh.de> The bug is reported here: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22199 the proposed bug fix is here: https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pull/2079 Kind regards Bernd Hello, With livecode 9.6 I have a strange behavior, when the custom property inspector is open, and the script window is open too, the focus shifts from time to time to the property title (which I previously displayed). If I don't pay attention, I replace the property title with the script I'm writing! With LV 9.0, I didn't notice this behavior. I?m the only one with this bug ? Thanks (and Happy New year !) ! Ludovic From brahma at hindu.org Sat Jan 11 22:33:46 2020 From: brahma at hindu.org (Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 03:33:46 +0000 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> References: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <4527B04C-2ADE-4DCD-9997-DD68DB460E87@hindu.org> No revision control. For people working in a "1 human silo" Is there a reason not to just put the script into a button and set the stack behavior to that? That's what I do when I don't want extra files in my build. From brian at milby7.com Sat Jan 11 22:43:15 2020 From: brian at milby7.com (Brian Milby) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 22:43:15 -0500 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: <4527B04C-2ADE-4DCD-9997-DD68DB460E87@hindu.org> References: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> <4527B04C-2ADE-4DCD-9997-DD68DB460E87@hindu.org> Message-ID: And if you want to edit scripts in an external editor, my tool may be useful to you: https://github.com/bwmilby/scriptTracker It would support putting the scripts themselves into a repository so you could track changes. ?It generates a consolidated diff every time it exports scripts. Thanks, Brian On Jan 11, 2020, 10:34 PM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode , wrote: > No revision control. For people working in a "1 human silo" > > Is there a reason not to just put the script into a button and set the > stack behavior to that? That's what I do when I don't want extra files in > my build. > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From jjs at krutt.org Sun Jan 12 13:04:32 2020 From: jjs at krutt.org (JJS) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 19:04:32 +0100 Subject: search whole list on certain subject, searching for Admob integration Message-ID: Hi, how do i search the whole list to get info on some topics. For now i'm searching for a solution to use Admob. as i made a thread here: https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=33521 Certainly not everyone is using the forum. So maybe someone has info here on how to add Admob to an Android app. (if other dev tools can, we should too) Thanks. Regards, JJS From jjs at krutt.org Sun Jan 12 13:23:26 2020 From: jjs at krutt.org (JJS) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 19:23:26 +0100 Subject: search whole list on certain subject, searching for Admob integration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <401a22c6-0fc1-929d-fa02-c72e7ad09e0f@krutt.org> ok i can search on narkive.com, that's great. Reading this " With that being said, we are currently working on various widgets for LiveCode 8 and one that supports multiple ad platforms is currently in the pipeline." here https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?t=26794#p139662 looks promising but it is still not there. I even see threads from nearly a decade ago...2011. any hints on this? Op 12-1-2020 om 19:04 schreef JJS via use-livecode: > Hi, > > > how do i search the whole list to get info on some topics. > > For now i'm searching for a solution to use Admob. > > as i made a thread here: > https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=33521 > > Certainly not everyone is using the forum. > > So maybe someone has info here on how to add Admob to an Android app. > (if other dev tools can, we should too) > > > Thanks. > > > Regards, > > JJS > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From mail at richard-hillen.de Sun Jan 12 14:53:21 2020 From: mail at richard-hillen.de (Hillen Richard) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 20:53:21 +0100 Subject: shell() and pdftotext Message-ID: Hello, I want to extract .txt from a pdf-file using Livecode 9.5 on macOS Catalina. Therefore I installed from http://www.xpdfreader.com/ the xpdf-tools-mac-4.02 and using the Terminal with ?pdftotext /Users/hillen/Desktop/inter.pdf? I get a clean text-file inter.txt. Wonderful! So I hopefully wrote in Livecode: ?????? put "/users/hillen/Desktop/inter.pdf" into fn put "pdftotext " & fn into Kommando if there is not a file fn then answer ?no SourceFile!" exit to top end if get shell(quote & Kommando & quote) answer it & return & the result ?????? But extracting doesn?t work and I get the answer: /bin/sh: line 1: pdftotext /users ??pdf: No such file or directory and the result ist 127. Typing to Terminal ?pdftotext? I get a List with command-options. With get shell(?pdftotext?) with and without quotes I get the answer ?/bin/sh: line 1: pdftotext: command not found? What is wrong? May you please help? Richard. From brian at milby7.com Sun Jan 12 17:00:58 2020 From: brian at milby7.com (Brian Milby) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 17:00:58 -0500 Subject: shell() and pdftotext In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <565b0e85-464e-4a5b-9227-c6ab100b64ca@Spark> My guess is that shell can?t find your executable. ?Try using full paths. Thanks, Brian On Jan 12, 2020, 2:54 PM -0500, Hillen Richard via use-livecode , wrote: > Hello, > > I want to extract .txt from a pdf-file using Livecode 9.5 on macOS Catalina. > > Therefore I installed from http://www.xpdfreader.com/ > the xpdf-tools-mac-4.02 > and using the Terminal with ?pdftotext /Users/hillen/Desktop/inter.pdf? > I get a clean text-file inter.txt. Wonderful! > > So I hopefully wrote in Livecode: > > ?????? > put "/users/hillen/Desktop/inter.pdf" into fn > put "pdftotext " & fn into Kommando > > if there is not a file fn then > answer ?no SourceFile!" > exit to top > end if > > get shell(quote & Kommando & quote) > > answer it & return & the result > ?????? > > But extracting doesn?t work and I get the answer: > > /bin/sh: line 1: pdftotext /users ??pdf: No such file or directory > > and the result ist 127. > > > > Typing to Terminal ?pdftotext? I get a List with command-options. > > With > get shell(?pdftotext?) with and without quotes > > I get the answer ?/bin/sh: line 1: pdftotext: command not found? > > > > What is wrong? May you please help? > > Richard. > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From alex at tweedly.net Sun Jan 12 20:39:56 2020 From: alex at tweedly.net (Alex Tweedly) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 01:39:56 +0000 Subject: Scripting puzzle / challenge. Message-ID: <36cb6912-d53a-0e9b-63bc-61b065cdb9d8@tweedly.net> It's been a while since we had a puzzle challenge on here .... I came across this article https://medium.com/free-code-camp/bet-you-cant-solve-this-google-interview-question-4a6e5a4dc8ee and it seemed to me like an interesting puzzle. The article is interesting, but (IMHO) pretty flawed; don't be put off by how complex he makes it seem :-). Problem is simple: given a rectangular grid of squares, each square has a color and the task is to find the largest contiguous block of any single colour. We'll keep the problem size moderate - up to 100x100 squares in the grid, up to 8 colours. Any 2 squares are adjacent only if they share an edge - i.e. corner touches don't count. The input format is a file : each line is a row of the grid, each character is a square within that row, and the value of the char represents the colour of that square. (or simply generate the data internally in the same format). So an example would be rbbrbbrb rggggggr rgbbbbgr rgbbbbgr rgbbbbgr rggggggr rbbrbbrb which has a block of 18 'g' squares, so the result would be something like 2,2 3,2 4,2 5,2 6,2 7,2 2,3 7,3 2,4 7,4 2,5 7,5 2,6 3,6 4,6 5,6 7,6 I'll post my solution in a day or two - but if you are impatient you can download from https://www.tweedly.org/downloads/color_solver.livecodescript ??? - text file, script for the solution function only (< 100 lines) https://www.tweedly.org/downloads/ColoutCounter.livecode ??? - stack file, including display of the results, etc. and some sample data at ..../color_1.txt?? .../color_2.txt and .../color_3.txt -- Alex. From phil at pdslabs.net Sun Jan 12 20:48:09 2020 From: phil at pdslabs.net (Phil Davis) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 17:48:09 -0800 Subject: shell() and pdftotext In-Reply-To: <565b0e85-464e-4a5b-9227-c6ab100b64ca@Spark> References: <565b0e85-464e-4a5b-9227-c6ab100b64ca@Spark> Message-ID: <5579e9a4-86c8-c8ed-defe-1e24422c5bdf@pdslabs.net> To find the full path, this may work - open Terminal and type: ??? which pdftotext and it should display the path to the copy of pdftotext that the OS runs when you type the 'pdftotext' command. Phil Davis On 1/12/20 2:00 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: > My guess is that shell can?t find your executable. ?Try using full paths. > > Thanks, > Brian > On Jan 12, 2020, 2:54 PM -0500, Hillen Richard via use-livecode , wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I want to extract .txt from a pdf-file using Livecode 9.5 on macOS Catalina. >> >> Therefore I installed from http://www.xpdfreader.com/ >> the xpdf-tools-mac-4.02 >> and using the Terminal with ?pdftotext /Users/hillen/Desktop/inter.pdf? >> I get a clean text-file inter.txt. Wonderful! >> >> So I hopefully wrote in Livecode: >> >> ?????? >> put "/users/hillen/Desktop/inter.pdf" into fn >> put "pdftotext " & fn into Kommando >> >> if there is not a file fn then >> answer ?no SourceFile!" >> exit to top >> end if >> >> get shell(quote & Kommando & quote) >> >> answer it & return & the result >> ?????? >> >> But extracting doesn?t work and I get the answer: >> >> /bin/sh: line 1: pdftotext /users ??pdf: No such file or directory >> >> and the result ist 127. >> >> >> >> Typing to Terminal ?pdftotext? I get a List with command-options. >> >> With >> get shell(?pdftotext?) with and without quotes >> >> I get the answer ?/bin/sh: line 1: pdftotext: command not found? >> >> >> >> What is wrong? May you please help? >> >> Richard. >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis 503-307-4363 From mail at richard-hillen.de Mon Jan 13 12:15:00 2020 From: mail at richard-hillen.de (Hillen Richard) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 18:15:00 +0100 Subject: use-livecode Digest, Vol 196, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E24ED3C-FA12-4F48-BC1E-929476EBEDB1@richard-hillen.de> Hello Brian, Hello Phil > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 17:00:58 -0500 > From: Brian Milby > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: shell() and pdftotext > Message-ID: <565b0e85-464e-4a5b-9227-c6ab100b64ca at Spark> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > My guess is that shell can?t find your executable. ?Try using full paths. > > Thanks, > Brian > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 17:48:09 -0800 > From: Phil Davis > To: Brian Milby via use-livecode > Subject: Re: shell() and pdftotext > Message-ID: <5579e9a4-86c8-c8ed-defe-1e24422c5bdf at pdslabs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > To find the full path, this may work - open Terminal and type: > > ??? which pdftotext > > and it should display the path to the copy of pdftotext that the OS runs > when you type the 'pdftotext' command. > > Phil Davis a) using the full path worked. b) asking for the path didn?t work, but see a) Thank you for your quick and usefull help! Richard. From dochawk at gmail.com Mon Jan 13 13:25:42 2020 From: dochawk at gmail.com (doc hawk) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:25:42 -0800 Subject: shell() and pdftotext In-Reply-To: <5579e9a4-86c8-c8ed-defe-1e24422c5bdf@pdslabs.net> References: <565b0e85-464e-4a5b-9227-c6ab100b64ca@Spark> <5579e9a4-86c8-c8ed-defe-1e24422c5bdf@pdslabs.net> Message-ID: <63CEF980-1C34-489B-84CA-DC3DF40CDB83@gmail.com> To elaborate further, if you can use pdftotext from the command line, but this is failing, it is because the path declared for your login shell is not getting picked up, or a different shell is being used by livedcode. Come to think of it, I have *no* idea which shell livecode defaults to?I?d assume the system default, which sometimes varies over versions of a particular OS. So if you use tcsh, but your system defaults to bash, all of those customizations and variables that apply at the command line may not come into play. From klaus at major-k.de Mon Jan 13 14:03:52 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 20:03:52 +0100 Subject: SQL(ite) question Message-ID: <44B0C5B9-2960-4468-8CCD-7964501E64D9@major-k.de> Hi all, I searched the docs of SQLite but could not find a hint. Is it possible to create a "full text search" in SQL(ite) with ONE SQL command? Something like this (pseudocode): ... SELECT * from MyTable where ANY_COLUMN like "%mysearchtermhere%" ... If not, how can this be done? You get the picture, any hints appreciated, thank you. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From ahsoftware at sonic.net Mon Jan 13 14:39:03 2020 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:39:03 -0800 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: <44B0C5B9-2960-4468-8CCD-7964501E64D9@major-k.de> References: <44B0C5B9-2960-4468-8CCD-7964501E64D9@major-k.de> Message-ID: On 1/13/20 11:03 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > Hi all, > > I searched the docs of SQLite but could not find a hint. > > Is it possible to create a "full text search" in SQL(ite) > with ONE SQL command? Something like this (pseudocode): > ... > SELECT * from MyTable where ANY_COLUMN like "%mysearchtermhere%" > ... > If not, how can this be done? > > You get the picture, any hints appreciated, thank you. Single command? No. But you can ahead of time create a virtual table to allow full-text searching without regard to whereness. The current LC version is linked with sqlite 3.28. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From klaus at major-k.de Mon Jan 13 14:41:36 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 20:41:36 +0100 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: References: <44B0C5B9-2960-4468-8CCD-7964501E64D9@major-k.de> Message-ID: <2B5F6ADE-9A26-4AA6-B6E8-F93C9230B829@major-k.de> Hi Mark, > Am 13.01.2020 um 20:39 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode : > > On 1/13/20 11:03 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> Hi all, >> I searched the docs of SQLite but could not find a hint. >> Is it possible to create a "full text search" in SQL(ite) >> with ONE SQL command? Something like this (pseudocode): >> ... >> SELECT * from MyTable where ANY_COLUMN like "%mysearchtermhere%" >> ... >> If not, how can this be done? >> You get the picture, any hints appreciated, thank you. > > Single command? No. well, I guessed. > But you can ahead of time create a virtual table to allow full-text searching without regard to whereness. The current LC version is linked with sqlite 3.28. Great, thanks a lot for this link! > -- > Mark Wieder Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Mon Jan 13 16:45:42 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:45:42 -0600 Subject: iOS launch screen dimensions Message-ID: The list of launch screen dimensions on the Apple developer site doesn't match the requirements in the standalone builder. Does that matter? Apple doesn't recommend that method anyway, they prefer a storyboard. Has anyone done that, and is it possible? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From panos.merakos at livecode.com Mon Jan 13 16:58:17 2020 From: panos.merakos at livecode.com (panagiotis merakos) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 23:58:17 +0200 Subject: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode Message-ID: Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #208 here: http://bit.ly/2thhvV7 This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around the open source project. New issues will be released weekly on Mondays. We have a dedicated mailing list that will deliver each issue directly to you e-mail, so you don't miss any! If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion somewhere, an upcoming event) then please get in touch. -- Panagiotis Merakos LiveCode Software Developer Everyone Can Create Apps From merakosp at gmail.com Mon Jan 13 17:02:31 2020 From: merakosp at gmail.com (panagiotis merakos) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 00:02:31 +0200 Subject: iOS launch screen dimensions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Jacque, The requirements in the S/B should match Apple's requirements - if they don't then it looks like a bug. Which screen's dimensions do not match? Also could you post the link of the webpage you are referring to? Kind regards Panos -- PS: Using a storyboard is not supported in LC. I _think_ it is possible to do it though - if you tweak the IDE code that saves the iOS standalone. On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 23:46, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > The list of launch screen dimensions on the Apple developer site doesn't > match the requirements in the standalone builder. Does that matter? > > Apple doesn't recommend that method anyway, they prefer a storyboard. > Has anyone done that, and is it possible? > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Mon Jan 13 18:02:33 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 17:02:33 -0600 Subject: iOS launch screen dimensions In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi Panos, Here's the page with Apple's iOS launch screen sizes: Some of those are in the SB and some aren't, and vice versa. Here's what the SB asks for: 320x480 640x960 640x1136 750x1334 1242x2208 1125x2436 828x1792 1242x2688 768x1024 1536x2048 2048x2732 I only extracted the portrait sizes from the SB since that's all I'm using but of course the landscape ones are the same if you read them backwards. On 1/13/20 4:02 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: > Hello Jacque, > > The requirements in the S/B should match Apple's requirements - if they > don't then it looks like a bug. > > Which screen's dimensions do not match? Also could you post the link of the > webpage you are referring to? > > Kind regards > Panos > -- > > PS: Using a storyboard is not supported in LC. I _think_ it is possible to > do it though - if you tweak the IDE code that saves the iOS standalone. > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 23:46, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> The list of launch screen dimensions on the Apple developer site doesn't >> match the requirements in the standalone builder. Does that matter? >> >> Apple doesn't recommend that method anyway, they prefer a storyboard. >> Has anyone done that, and is it possible? >> >> -- >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Mon Jan 13 18:03:30 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 23:03:30 +0000 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: <44B0C5B9-2960-4468-8CCD-7964501E64D9@major-k.de> References: <44B0C5B9-2960-4468-8CCD-7964501E64D9@major-k.de> Message-ID: Actually I do this all the time. SELECT * from MyTable where COLUMN1 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR COLUMN2 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR COLUMN3 like "%mysearchtermhere%" I loop through a list of columns I want to search to build the query. Bob S > On Jan 13, 2020, at 11:03 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > > Hi all, > > I searched the docs of SQLite but could not find a hint. > > Is it possible to create a "full text search" in SQL(ite) > with ONE SQL command? Something like this (pseudocode): > ... > SELECT * from MyTable where ANY_COLUMN like "%mysearchtermhere%" > ... > If not, how can this be done? > > You get the picture, any hints appreciated, thank you. > > > Best > > Klaus > -- > Klaus Major > https://www.major-k.de > klaus at major-k.de > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From dochawk at gmail.com Mon Jan 13 18:03:34 2020 From: dochawk at gmail.com (doc hawk) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:03:34 -0800 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: References: <44B0C5B9-2960-4468-8CCD-7964501E64D9@major-k.de> Message-ID: On Jan 13, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > > Single command? No. Also, note that you *can* submit compound commands from LiveCode to SQLite and PostgreSQL, unlike with mySQL. (Or, maybe the interface to mySQL has changed in the years since I learned this the hard way). From sean at pidigital.co.uk Mon Jan 13 20:04:35 2020 From: sean at pidigital.co.uk (Pi Digital) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 01:04:35 +0000 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Even easier: SELECT * FROM MyTable WHERE ((col1+col2+aCol1+aCol2) LIKE ?%mysearchtermhere%?) Sean Cole Pi Digital Prod Ltd >> On 13 Jan 2020, at 23:03, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > ?Actually I do this all the time. > > SELECT * from MyTable where > COLUMN1 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR > COLUMN2 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR > COLUMN3 like "%mysearchtermhere%" > > I loop through a list of columns I want to search to build the query. > > Bob S > > >> On Jan 13, 2020, at 11:03 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I searched the docs of SQLite but could not find a hint. >> >> Is it possible to create a "full text search" in SQL(ite) >> with ONE SQL command? Something like this (pseudocode): >> ... >> SELECT * from MyTable where ANY_COLUMN like "%mysearchtermhere%" >> ... >> If not, how can this be done? >> >> You get the picture, any hints appreciated, thank you. >> >> >> Best >> >> Klaus >> -- >> Klaus Major >> https://www.major-k.de >> klaus at major-k.de >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From ahsoftware at sonic.net Mon Jan 13 20:13:47 2020 From: ahsoftware at sonic.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 17:13:47 -0800 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: References: <44B0C5B9-2960-4468-8CCD-7964501E64D9@major-k.de>

Message-ID: On 1/13/20 3:03 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: >> >> Single command? No. > > Also, note that you *can* submit compound commands from LiveCode to SQLite and PostgreSQL, unlike with mySQL. (Or, maybe the interface to mySQL has changed in the years since I learned this the hard way). Yes, but it would no doubt be overkill to generate a new virtual table for every search. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftware at gmail.com From sean at pidigital.co.uk Mon Jan 13 22:37:23 2020 From: sean at pidigital.co.uk (Pi Digital) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 03:37:23 +0000 Subject: shell() and pdftotext In-Reply-To: <63CEF980-1C34-489B-84CA-DC3DF40CDB83@gmail.com> References: <63CEF980-1C34-489B-84CA-DC3DF40CDB83@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6B787157-4709-4620-9562-90F261B447CF@pidigital.co.uk> Shell() always uses the default folder path. Example (mac/Linux): Set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath(?home?) put shell(?ls?) Breakpoint Set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath(?documents?) put shell(?ls?) Breakpoint I put any non native shell commands I want into my engine path, especially for standalones. Sean Cole Pi Digital Prod Ltd > On 13 Jan 2020, at 18:25, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote: > > ?To elaborate further, if you can use pdftotext from the command line, but this is failing, it is because the path declared for your login shell is not getting picked up, or a different shell is being used by livedcode. > > Come to think of it, I have *no* idea which shell livecode defaults to?I?d assume the system default, which sometimes varies over versions of a particular OS. > > So if you use tcsh, but your system defaults to bash, all of those customizations and variables that apply at the command line may not come into play. > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From klaus at major-k.de Tue Jan 14 04:15:34 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:15:34 +0100 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <4F70A3F9-89CA-40D3-A7BD-417A6A6504BC@major-k.de> Hi Sean, > Am 14.01.2020 um 02:04 schrieb Pi Digital via use-livecode : > > Even easier: > > SELECT * FROM MyTable WHERE ((col1+col2+aCol1+aCol2) LIKE ?%mysearchtermhere%?) aha, thank you very much, I had no idea this is possible! :-) > Sean Cole > Pi Digital Prod Ltd > >>> On 13 Jan 2020, at 23:03, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >> ?Actually I do this all the time. >> SELECT * from MyTable where >> COLUMN1 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR >> COLUMN2 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR >> COLUMN3 like "%mysearchtermhere%" >> I loop through a list of columns I want to search to build the query. >> >> Bob S >> >>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 11:03 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I searched the docs of SQLite but could not find a hint. >>> >>> Is it possible to create a "full text search" in SQL(ite) >>> with ONE SQL command? Something like this (pseudocode): >>> ... >>> SELECT * from MyTable where ANY_COLUMN like "%mysearchtermhere%" >>> ... >>> ... Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From hh at hyperhh.de Tue Jan 14 06:06:50 2020 From: hh at hyperhh.de (hh) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:06:50 +0100 Subject: shell() and pdftotext Message-ID: > Richard H. wrote: > Typing to Terminal ?pdftotext? I get a List with command-options. > With get shell(?pdftotext?) with and without quotes > I get the answer ?/bin/sh: line 1: pdftotext: command not found? > What is wrong? May you please help? (MacOS Catalina). You could add on startup /usr/local/bin to the LC environment variable $PATH: on startUp local ulb="/usr/local/bin" set itemdel to ":" if ulb is not among the items of $PATH then put ":"&ulb after $PATH end startUp From hh at hyperhh.de Tue Jan 14 06:17:09 2020 From: hh at hyperhh.de (hh) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:17:09 +0100 Subject: Use-livecode author names Message-ID: <8592DFB7-FA51-4BD3-8205-F2BD828A6790@hyperhh.de> See the "statistics" here: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=186723#p186723 From ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Jan 14 10:52:20 2020 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 07:52:20 -0800 Subject: encrypting script-only stacks Message-ID: Since script-only stacks contain only a script with no properties, they have no password property, and thus cannot be encrypted. I had thought that including them in the Stacks pane of the Standalone Builder might convert them to binary substacks, where the password could apply. No dice. Is it a bug that script-only stacks can't be imported into the stackfile to become binary substacks? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Tue Jan 14 12:21:31 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:21:31 -0600 Subject: encrypting script-only stacks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16fa5131d78.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Wouldn't a binary script-only stack be the library stack we already have now? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 14, 2020 9:55:01 AM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > Since script-only stacks contain only a script with no properties, they > have no password property, and thus cannot be encrypted. > > I had thought that including them in the Stacks pane of the Standalone > Builder might convert them to binary substacks, where the password could > apply. No dice. > > Is it a bug that script-only stacks can't be imported into the stackfile > to become binary substacks? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > ____________________________________________________________________ > Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Jan 14 12:30:00 2020 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:30:00 -0800 Subject: encrypting script-only stacks In-Reply-To: <16fa5131d78.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> References: <16fa5131d78.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: Sure, and with the extra benefit that you wouldn't have to expose your code to end-users. That is, unless there's a way to include SoS in a standalone that includes encryption, such as an automated method in the Standalone Builder. I couldn't find one, but it seems like such a pervasive issue for the class of devs most likely to use SoS (pros dependent on VCS) that I'm hoping I just missed something. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Jacque wrote: > Wouldn't a binary script-only stack be the library stack we already > have now? > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > > On January 14, 2020 9:55:01 AM Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Since script-only stacks contain only a script with no properties, >> they have no password property, and thus cannot be encrypted. >> >> I had thought that including them in the Stacks pane of the >> Standalone Builder might convert them to binary substacks, where >> the password could apply. No dice. >> >> Is it a bug that script-only stacks can't be imported into the >> stackfile to become binary substacks? >> >> -- >> Richard Gaskin >> Fourth World Systems From kaveh at rivervalleytechnologies.com Tue Jan 14 12:36:01 2020 From: kaveh at rivervalleytechnologies.com (Kaveh Bazargan) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 17:36:01 +0000 Subject: encrypting script-only stacks In-Reply-To: References: <16fa5131d78.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: The benefits of SoS are so important that I would hate to have to go back to binary again. Nothing like having pure text files to version, back up etc. so I am also hoping for an elegant solution to encode these in standalone. On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 17:31, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Sure, and with the extra benefit that you wouldn't have to expose your > code to end-users. > > That is, unless there's a way to include SoS in a standalone that > includes encryption, such as an automated method in the Standalone Builder. > > I couldn't find one, but it seems like such a pervasive issue for the > class of devs most likely to use SoS (pros dependent on VCS) that I'm > hoping I just missed something. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > > > Jacque wrote: > > > Wouldn't a binary script-only stack be the library stack we already > > have now? > > -- > > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > > > > On January 14, 2020 9:55:01 AM Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > >> Since script-only stacks contain only a script with no properties, > >> they have no password property, and thus cannot be encrypted. > >> > >> I had thought that including them in the Stacks pane of the > >> Standalone Builder might convert them to binary substacks, where > >> the password could apply. No dice. > >> > >> Is it a bug that script-only stacks can't be imported into the > >> stackfile to become binary substacks? > >> > >> -- > >> Richard Gaskin > >> Fourth World Systems > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Kaveh Bazargan PhD Director River Valley Technologies ? Twitter ? LinkedIn From ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Jan 14 12:46:36 2020 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:46:36 -0800 Subject: encrypting script-only stacks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42af491f-8f94-9342-74a4-25c5daf9afc0@fourthworld.com> I use Nextcloud with my work folders, so backup with versions is automatic, and it keeps everything synced across my Mac, Linux, and Win boxes along with it. But my needs are modest. Because I rarely work in teams larger than three to five developers, and we assign tasks by skill focus so we rarely need to have two devs working on the same stack file at the same time, we rarely need automated merge assistance. In the few cases where we have needed a merge, a prop diff and tossed-together script-diff have been sufficient. I will be using Git more in 2020, though, for open source work, likely on Github (though I'm still considering Gitlab since it's open source itself). Help me motivate to move my Git transition forward sooner: Beyond backup across versions (since that's widely available in most cloud storage for even binary files), that Git features do you find most valuable? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Kaveh Bazargan wrote: > The benefits of SoS are so important that I would hate to have to go > back to binary again. Nothing like having pure text files to version, > back up etc. so I am also hoping for an elegant solution to encode > these in standalone. > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 17:31, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Sure, and with the extra benefit that you wouldn't have to expose >> your code to end-users. >> >> That is, unless there's a way to include SoS in a standalone that >> includes encryption, such as an automated method in the Standalone >> Builder. >> >> I couldn't find one, but it seems like such a pervasive issue for the >> class of devs most likely to use SoS (pros dependent on VCS) that I'm >> hoping I just missed something. >> >> -- >> Richard Gaskin >> Fourth World Systems From klaus at major-k.de Tue Jan 14 12:55:33 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:55:33 +0100 Subject: Embarrasssing old bugs Message-ID: <4D49478A-64D3-4829-8B47-95AFB4B2D852@major-k.de> Hi all, hi mothership, a customer of mine asked me to help him, he needs to deliver an update to his existing app. I hade been mentoring him, a complete newbie, about two years ago and after a couple of months he had an app in the iOS store and in the Google Paly store (or what this is called). Not too bad. :-) And now I have to tell him that after 5 (FIVE!) years we still do not have "system date" etc. on Android!? As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc. And that we still have no (LC typically easy) way of displaying a PDF on Android. How embarrassing is this in 2020? If we want to get an even higher ranking than 36 on TIOBE, this should be fixed as soon as possible. This is of course only my "not humble at all" opinion! :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de Tue Jan 14 12:56:43 2020 From: matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de (matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:56:43 +0100 Subject: FYI: Cause found for LC crashing to desktop when Browser widget opens PDF Message-ID: <2F2113EE-3F78-4219-9E79-62202326473B@m-r-d.de> Hi, maybe this is of use for the one or the other. in any case LC crashes on Mac to desktop when opening a PDF in the Browser Widget and your are getting crazy because of that, then check if Acrobat software is installed on your system. A few days ago i mentionend in an answer to an other post, that LC 9.5/9.6 and also standalones created with that versions, but not LC8, crash to desktop when one opens a PDF in the Browser Widget. I contacted support, as i was pretty sure that this worked in the past. As this only happened on my iMac, but not on my Macbook, i decided to completely erase the hard disk of my iMac and reinstall the OS and all needed LC stuff, because i had to finish some important work and waiting for an answer from support or continuing on the Macbook was not an option for me. I planned to install the other software one after the other when i needed it. All went well and the problem with the PDF in the widget did not happen anymore. Today i needed to install Acrobat DC for some tasks. An hour later or so i received an answer from support and one question from Dev team was if by any chance Acrobat software is/was installed on my machine. I tried again in LC and the crash happened again. After uninstalling Acrobat DC the crashes did not happen anymore. I reported this back to support. Of course not using Acrobat DC anymore is no final solution, but for the moment it?s a workaround and hopefully the Dev team finds out what exactly is going wrong with. Matthias From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Tue Jan 14 13:00:06 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:00:06 +0000 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: <4F70A3F9-89CA-40D3-A7BD-417A6A6504BC@major-k.de> References:

<4F70A3F9-89CA-40D3-A7BD-417A6A6504BC@major-k.de> Message-ID: The only problem I see here is that it is possible to get a match with the last part of one column and the first part of the next, especially with numerical data, which would be a false positive. Bob S > On Jan 14, 2020, at 01:15 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > > Hi Sean, > >> Am 14.01.2020 um 02:04 schrieb Pi Digital via use-livecode : >> >> Even easier: >> >> SELECT * FROM MyTable WHERE ((col1+col2+aCol1+aCol2) LIKE ?%mysearchtermhere%?) > > aha, thank you very much, I had no idea this is possible! :-) > >> Sean Cole >> Pi Digital Prod Ltd >> >>>> On 13 Jan 2020, at 23:03, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >>> ?Actually I do this all the time. >>> SELECT * from MyTable where >>> COLUMN1 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR >>> COLUMN2 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR >>> COLUMN3 like "%mysearchtermhere%" >>> I loop through a list of columns I want to search to build the query. >>> >>> Bob S >>> > From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Tue Jan 14 13:04:03 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:04:03 +0000 Subject: Embarrasssing old bugs In-Reply-To: <4D49478A-64D3-4829-8B47-95AFB4B2D852@major-k.de> References: <4D49478A-64D3-4829-8B47-95AFB4B2D852@major-k.de> Message-ID: <844BD184-2C38-4B85-AA78-61F878D7B9F3@iotecdigital.com> This is why I always convert dates to what I call SQL datetime (YY:MM:DD HH:MM:SS). For display purposes I format as needed. Not sure this would help on an Android though. Bob S > On Jan 14, 2020, at 09:55 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > > And now I have to tell him that after 5 (FIVE!) years we still do not have > "system date" etc. on Android!? > > As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc. From klaus at major-k.de Tue Jan 14 13:05:29 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:05:29 +0100 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: References:

<4F70A3F9-89CA-40D3-A7BD-417A6A6504BC@major-k.de> Message-ID: Hi Bob, > Am 14.01.2020 um 19:00 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode : > > The only problem I see here is that it is possible to get a match with the last part of one column and the first part of the next, especially with numerical data, which would be a false positive. AHA, so SQL treats this: ... WHERE ((col1+col2+aCol1+aCol2) ...) Like this in LC: ... WHERE ((col1 & col2 & aCol1 &aCol2) ...) ? > Bob S > ... >>> Even easier: >>> SELECT * FROM MyTable WHERE ((col1+col2+aCol1+aCol2) LIKE ?%mysearchtermhere%?) >> aha, thank you very much, I had no idea this is possible! :-) >>> Sean Cole >>> Pi Digital Prod Ltd >>>>> On 13 Jan 2020, at 23:03, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >>>> ?Actually I do this all the time. >>>> SELECT * from MyTable where >>>> COLUMN1 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR >>>> COLUMN2 like "%mysearchtermhere%" OR >>>> COLUMN3 like "%mysearchtermhere%" >>>> I loop through a list of columns I want to search to build the query. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com Tue Jan 14 13:07:03 2020 From: bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:07:03 +0000 Subject: SQL(ite) question In-Reply-To: References:

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Message-ID: <4C4CB887-DAF8-432C-A82C-19D9E06F9B2D@iotecdigital.com> Pretty sure + means concatenate, otherwise that SQL statement would not work in any I can imagine. Bob S > On Jan 14, 2020, at 10:05 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > > Hi Bob, > >> Am 14.01.2020 um 19:00 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode : >> >> The only problem I see here is that it is possible to get a match with the last part of one column and the first part of the next, especially with numerical data, which would be a false positive. > > AHA, so SQL treats this: > ... WHERE ((col1+col2+aCol1+aCol2) ...) > > Like this in LC: > ... WHERE ((col1 & col2 & aCol1 &aCol2) ...) > ? > >> Bob S From klaus at major-k.de Tue Jan 14 13:07:59 2020 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus major-k) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:07:59 +0100 Subject: Embarrasssing old bugs In-Reply-To: <844BD184-2C38-4B85-AA78-61F878D7B9F3@iotecdigital.com> References: <4D49478A-64D3-4829-8B47-95AFB4B2D852@major-k.de> <844BD184-2C38-4B85-AA78-61F878D7B9F3@iotecdigital.com> Message-ID: <939D4592-643B-4EE2-979C-DAB965573189@major-k.de> Hi Bob, > Am 14.01.2020 um 19:04 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode : > This is why I always convert dates to what I call SQL datetime (YY:MM:DD HH:MM:SS). For display purposes I format as needed. sure, that's what we do in the moment, but something like this is not easily worked around: -> As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc. > Not sure this would help on an Android though. Not really. :-) > Bob S > >> On Jan 14, 2020, at 09:55 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> And now I have to tell him that after 5 (FIVE!) years we still do not have >> "system date" etc. on Android!? >> >> As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de klaus at major-k.de From jjs at krutt.org Tue Jan 14 13:09:29 2020 From: jjs at krutt.org (Jjs) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:09:29 +0100 Subject: Embarrasssing old bugs In-Reply-To: <4D49478A-64D3-4829-8B47-95AFB4B2D852@major-k.de> References: <4D49478A-64D3-4829-8B47-95AFB4B2D852@major-k.de> Message-ID: There are more things which are still not possible in LC concerning mobile. It goes back to 2011 and that is get ads in your app. Or decent touch possibilities like TUIO for all desktop platforms. Klaus major-k via use-livecode schreef op 14 januari 2020 18:55:33 CET: >Hi all, hi mothership, > >a customer of mine asked me to help him, he needs to deliver an >update to his existing app. > >I hade been mentoring him, a complete newbie, about two years ago >and after a couple of months he had an app in the iOS store and in >the Google Paly store (or what this is called). Not too bad. :-) > >And now I have to tell him that after 5 (FIVE!) years we still do not >have >"system date" etc. on Android!? > >As a result we cannot e.g. sort a datagrid by "sytem datetime" etc. > >And that we still have no (LC typically easy) way of displaying a PDF >on Android. > >How embarrassing is this in 2020? >If we want to get an even higher ranking than 36 on TIOBE, this should >be fixed as >soon as possible. > >This is of course only my "not humble at all" opinion! :-) > > >Best > >Klaus > >-- >Klaus Major >https://www.major-k.de >klaus at major-k.de > > >_______________________________________________ >use-livecode mailing list >use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. From livecode at pink.guru Tue Jan 14 13:26:30 2020 From: livecode at pink.guru (Greg (Pink) Miller) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:26:30 -0500 Subject: Changing extention on script only stack In-Reply-To: References: <2be7fe3b-4142-46b7-af5a-7338c6db69c5@Spark> <16f86723408.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> <4527B04C-2ADE-4DCD-9997-DD68DB460E87@hindu.org> Message-ID: ScriptTracker was definitely the tool I needed. I didn't need an external script for any reason other than faster editing. On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 10:43 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > And if you want to edit scripts in an external editor, my tool may be > useful to you: > https://github.com/bwmilby/scriptTracker > > It would support putting the scripts themselves into a repository so you > could track changes. It generates a consolidated diff every time it > exports scripts. > > Thanks, > Brian > On Jan 11, 2020, 10:34 PM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via > use-livecode , wrote: > > No revision control. For people working in a "1 human silo" > > > > Is there a reason not to just put the script into a button and set the > > stack behavior to that? That's what I do when I don't want extra files in > > my build. > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Tue Jan 14 13:29:12 2020 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:29:12 -0600 Subject: encrypting script-only stacks In-Reply-To: References: <16fa5131d78.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com>

Message-ID: <16fa55114c0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> My thought was that you'd use the text files during development and then save them as binary with encryption for the final build. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 14, 2020 11:38:06 AM Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote: > The benefits of SoS are so important that I would hate to have to go back > to binary again. Nothing like having pure text files to version, back up > etc. so I am also hoping for an elegant solution to encode these in > standalone. > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 17:31, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Sure, and with the extra benefit that you wouldn't have to expose your >> code to end-users. >> >> That is, unless there's a way to include SoS in a standalone that >> includes encryption, such as an automated method in the Standalone Builder. >> >> I couldn't find one, but it seems like such a pervasive issue for the >> class of devs most likely to use SoS (pros dependent on VCS) that I'm >> hoping I just missed something. >> >> -- >> Richard Gaskin >> Fourth World Systems >> >> >> Jacque wrote: >> >> > Wouldn't a binary script-only stack be the library stack we already >> > have now? >> > -- >> > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com >> > >> > On January 14, 2020 9:55:01 AM Richard Gaskin wrote: >> > >> >> Since script-only stacks contain only a script with no properties, >> >> they have no password property, and thus cannot be encrypted. >> >> >> >> I had thought that including them in the Stacks pane of the >> >> Standalone Builder might convert them to binary substacks, where >> >> the password could apply. No dice. >> >> >> >> Is it a bug that script-only stacks can't be imported into the >> >> stackfile to become binary substacks? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Richard Gaskin >> >> Fourth World Systems >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > -- > Kaveh Bazargan PhD > Director > River Valley Technologies ? Twitter > ? LinkedIn > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode From kaveh at rivervalleytechnologies.com Tue Jan 14 13:55:37 2020 From: kaveh at rivervalleytechnologies.com (Kaveh Bazargan) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:55:37 +0000 Subject: encrypting script-only stacks In-Reply-To: <16fa55114c0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> References: <16fa5131d78.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com>

<16fa55114c0.27a5.5e131b4e58299f54a9f0b9c05d4f07f9@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: That?s a great idea. :-) On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 18:30, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > My thought was that you'd use the text files during development and then > save them as binary with encryption for the final build. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > On January 14, 2020 11:38:06 AM Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode >