Apps to fight COVID-19

dsc at swcp.com dsc at swcp.com
Fri Apr 10 13:04:19 EDT 2020 

And it doesn't have to be just contact tracing related.

Jonathan Rothberg's team is working on a simple test at home that needs an app.
Cov19 at 4Catalyzer.com <mailto:Cov19 at 4Catalyzer.com>

Anybody want to talk about a containment game? Or take the concept and go in one's own direction?

Nicky Case's phone size comic is now available in several languages, so if you include that in _anything_ you do, can localize a little. 

Dar
team COVID Watch


> On Apr 10, 2020, at 9:12 AM, dsc--- via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> It is good to see some leadership here. Thanks, David.
> 
> Jeff Schwaber on COVID Watch leadership team welcomes LiveCode programmers. His initial interest is in making the Bluetooth and TCN libraries available within the LiveCode environment. He suggests joining a couple channels at COVID Watch Slack.
> 
> Those libraries are moving to the TCN Coalition and so are applicable to a wide range of contact tracing apps. This enables LiveCoders to create test apps, explore ideas and even make "competing" apps. 
> 
> COVID Watch does not have any desktop apps. One approach might be to convert Android Kotlin to Native Kotlin. Another is to move to LiveCode.
> 
> I'm a Slack noob and I am not sure of the process of onboarding here. I will try to find out. Anybody here know typical Slack etiquette?
> 
> Dar
> team COVID Watch
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2020, at 2:58 AM, David Bovill via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for all the info Dar - that’s a great start.
>> 
>> I think creating a hospital / care-worker privacy respecting contact tracing app would be a great Livecode project.
>> 
>> This is what I’m thinking:
>> 
>> • Some of gather some material / research - maybe a few Livecode experiments not he topic
>> • We prepare a video conference call - like the Livecode Zoom one I missed
>> • We invite a few people
>> • We follow up the video conference with a week long online sprint - some coding, some writing, some design / cartoons
>> • We showcase the results at a wrap up event
>> 
>> I’m working with a handful of volunteers - mainly on the video / media / Zoom / research / facilitation end of things, but we’re getting pretty good at organising small and larger scale interactive video conferences and editing together the footage for feedback documentation. Mostly Livecode novices but interested to learn. So we could set up the event - most probably in Zoom - but could be Jitsi.
>> 
>> To make it work, I think we’d need a few Livecode tutors, and interest from the community - in the end it should be something that the folks on this list would like to take part in, so when we onboard other people the party is not empty.
>> 
>> I’d propose we do this on Earth Day - Wednesday 22nd April - in the evening Europe time, after midday US time.
>> 
>> Any thoughts / takers?
>> 
>> On 10 Apr 2020, 04:04 +0100, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>, wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, David! Hi, Mark! Hi, Everybody!
>>> 
>>> There are several teams that need help in a variety of ways.
>>> 
>>> Several teams are in the TCN Coalition <https://tcn-coalition.org/>. These teams respect privacy and use the TCN Protocol. COVID Watch is there with help from around the world, but with a USA focus. You can see a list with links on that very simple page. Volunteers might want to seek out those whose location, philosophy or neediness seem to be appealing.
>>> 
>>> Other organizations include Private Kit: Safe Paths (GPS) and "Eastcoast" PACT out of MIT. You can probably find more. If you have a direction or need you want to focus on, I can try to help.
>>> 
>>> A group in Europe is forming around DT-3T, triggered by work by Carmela Troncoso of EPFL and folks at ETHZ. (Even though DT-3T is considered to be under the umbrella of PEPPPT, the later group includes teams whose methods that require trusted servers. DT-3T does not.) This project has some nice features.
>>> https://github.com/DP-3T <https://github.com/DP-3T>
>>> 
>>> Artist/explainer Nicky Case has created a comic in a phone format that explains contact tracing. The details look a little more like DT-3T than what COVID Watch is doing, but one tweaked for COVID Watch is in the works. You can incorporate this into your current apps or make a new education app. The education app might remind people how they downloaded that app and how to download the kind of app described in the comic. You can run with this on your own.
>>> https://ncase.me/contact-tracing/ <https://ncase.me/contact-tracing/>
>>> 
>>> Everybody should look at that comic anyway. It explains a lot in just a few minutes.
>>> 
>>> There is a need for both phone and desktop apps used by healthcare providers to validate "I'm sick" reports. Many organizations need some means of making sure there are few false reports. Maybe some sort of cryptographic signature or something. While groups are focusing on the user app, the hospital apps are seeing less work.
>>> 
>>> And then there are the servers. Maybe Firebase will work but I suspect that there might have to be more, depending on the team. Server? Look at the Nicky Case comic.
>>> 
>>> I have some for a containment game that includes contact tracing. I can give it to somebody and even (in my copious spare time) provide some handwaving.
>>> 
>>> One problem is that auntie does not know how to download apps. Encouraging friends showing friends how to download is a good thing. Rapid adoption will become important. And even education about contact tracing in general.
>>> 
>>> You might be coming up with ideas I didn't even think about.
>>> 
>>> Contact me if you need any help.
>>> 
>>> Dar
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 9, 2020, at 4:46 AM, Mark Smith via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Happy to contribute as well.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 8, 2020, at 3:17 PM, David Bovill via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’d be interested in volunteering to make a Livecode app for this. Anyone else?
>>>>> On 7 Apr 2020, 00:41 +0100, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>, wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, everybody!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I apologize for the drive-by email.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And I miss everybody on the list. Been busy all that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am a strong believer in contact tracing as an implortant part of COVID-19 containment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are several teams out there working on voluntary privacy-protecting contact tracing apps to deploy before Big Brother mandates some central DB app usage. Those include COVID Watch, CoEpi, Private Watch Safe Paths, and others. Most have already started and are using swift and kotlin. Only Safe Paths has something out. However, there might be some room in creating some instant apps in LiveCode or in supporting in other ways. Also, some teams are just getting started and need something fast. I think we need some education apps done quickly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, 4Catalyzer is making a home test and needs some app development.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For myself, I am on on the COVID Watch team.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you want to do something, take a look around at privacy preserving contact tracing projects. And also look specifically I the ones I mentioned.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I might be rehashing what has already been discussed. Sorry. Like I said, "Drive by email".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And remember what the Beatles said, "You wanna wash your ha-a-ands!"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dar Scott
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am using Private Watch: Safe Paths on my iPhone to fight COVID-19..
>>>>>> 
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