...and Livecode... where are we now?

Thu Oct 3 09:06:58 EDT 2019

poor comms don't make this better.  one good thing about LCG was that we
had bi-monthly updates.  this year, no comms.
i am less hopeful that the influx of new revenue will matter in the medium
term, because most of the effort will be on the requests that are tied to
the new revenue.
every time this has happened with any other tool we use here, we wait with
disappointment.  then at any sign of effort, we get excited, and then we
seep back into disappointment.
it's feeling like it's time to back-burner LC, too.  there is good energy
from about 50 people, but the mother ship is doing a poor job of managing
that energy.

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 5:56 AM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> It doesn't take a Sherlock home to work out that if (I hope when!)  LCFM
> works out that the company will have
> an influx of "new blood" with the attendant large increase in yearly
> subscriptions.
>
> My very short post (cut down from my usual rants) was lobbing a tiny hand
> grenade in to arena, and see if someone at LCHQ
> bites and tells us something of consequence rather than "it's going well"
> or LC will be the better for all the new stuff they are working on.
>
> Surely if they have some extra money coming in they can have someone
> working on finishing all the (paid for) promises and milestones.
> (HH and Sean  I feel your pain - HTML5 anyone?). I'm reading between the
> lines but Trevor probably knows how well it's doing - but the rest of use
> are being treated like mushrooms.
>
> "Soon" can be years rather than months and weeks - and typically is years.
> For example Filemaker has a precision of 16 to 400 digits. So that MUST
> have been coded for, will we get that retrofitted in the future .
> I'm not asking because I need 400 digits but you never know.
>
> Filemaker has data binding and field Validation.
>
> https://fmhelp.filemaker.com/help/16/fmp/en/#page/FMP_Help%2Ffield-validation.html%23
>
> (I could do that in Clipper in 1985 with field masks). Yes I've rolled my
> own but their are things  better done as a standard in an LC library.
>
> When is the IDE that still crashes at least 4 times a day whenever I  run
> through more than 5 breakpoints in succession,going to get some love.
> What about the Script Editor being SLOWER than molasses - 4 seconds between
> key presses.
> What about Sqlite engine/library, the 2D physics where we were told there
> was a working version over a year ago. The Sound on Linux. What about the
> raspberry PI version. I shouldn't need to go on.
>
> I want LCFM  to work like the next guy but please tell us what is going on
> and  when.
>
> I'd rather base my decisions on facts rather than airy fairy words.
>
> Are more programmers coming on board or is LCFM the new shiny object?
>
>
> <RANT ON>
> Sorry for the Mr Angry tone , but I'm a little (make that very irritated)
> at the moment, as I  just got off the phone to the Bank where the Zombie
> script reader who asked me 8 (countem EIGHT questions) to get me past
> security
> and I was only phoning up to ask why my Card Readers hadn't arrived.
> People can have £70,000 taken out of their accounts with just a sortcode,
> name and account number and I am asked for 8 pieces of information to ask
> where the card readers  that were ordered nearly 3 weeks ago were!!!
> </RANT OFF>
>
> Regards Lagi
>
> p.s.
>
> Two Card readers turned up after my call. - Two more are on their way.
> Maybe if i look at downloads ther might be a version 10 Stable of Livecode
> ;-)
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 23:25, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > We all need livecode the company to be stable and profitable, so if they
> > have to temporarily focus on x to create long term viability, then they
> > should do it. Maybe just let everyone know what the plan is....and maybe
> on
> > a release with multiple bug fixes such as 9.05 is important to prioritize
> > it a little bit.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 3:17 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/2/19 11:24 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote:
> > >
> > > > I suspect that the quick updates to LiveCode FM are a sign that the
> > > launch
> > > > at the FileMaker conference generated a lot of interest and there is
> > some
> > > > momentum building there. Perhaps they are trying to quickly fill in
> the
> > > > gaps based on that interest so that they can close more licensing
> > deals?
> > > If
> > > > that is the case and they can build that revenue source then it
> should
> > > > ultimately be a good thing for those of us who don't use LiveCode FM.
> > It
> > > is
> > > > unfortunate that LC has to sit mostly idle for so long though.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Indeed. There are currently some 200 or so pull requests waiting in the
> > > queue for action.
> > >
> > > I'm encouraged by this: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7185
> > >
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