Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?

Tue Nov 5 16:35:07 EST 2019

On 11/5/19 12:26 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
> I am sure it is possible. I just don't have the 
> PHP/HTML/Javascript/whatever skills to do that.

Me neither. I do it either directly in a .lc server page, or else the 
.lc page starts using a stackfile that does it.

(fiddling around with different machines...)

It appears the $_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT] server global might provide an 
adequate distinction between OSes on requesting machines. I just ran a 
'globals.lc' server page from 3 different Macs with different OS 
versions and got this info returned:

    $_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT] = Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X
    10_13_6) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.3904.87
    Safari/537.36

    $_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT] = Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X
    10_15_1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.3904.70
    Safari/537.36

    $_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT] = Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X
    10_14_5) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/12.1.1
    Safari/605.1.15

My server's globals.lc page looks like this on the inside:

    <html>
    <body>
    <?lc
         set the errorMode to "inline"
         put the keys of $_SERVER into tList
         repeat for each line tKey in tList
             put "$_SERVER[" & tKey & "] = " & $_SERVER[tKey] & "<BR>"
    after tOutput
         end repeat

         put tOutput
    ?>

    </body>
    </html>

Phil Davis

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>
> On 11/5/2019 12:02 PM, Phil Davis via use-livecode wrote:
>> On this issue, isn't it possible to let a web server detect the OS 
>> requesting the download? So the server can then do the picking and 
>> send the right version to the requestor?
>>
>> Or maybe the info available to the server about the requesting OS 
>> isn't that detailed. Not sure. At least I'm sure I can use a single 
>> download link for an app's Mac and Windows installers.
>>
>> Phil Davis
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/5/19 8:33 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
>>> I'm not saying YOUR experience is invalid. I guess I am just saying 
>>> we have really really really computer naive customers and Apple has 
>>> gone and complicated things and it creates a support burden for us 
>>> that we would not have had to expend resources addressing if Apple 
>>> had not done this.
>>>
>>> Apple has, and there is no going back, so it is what it is, but it 
>>> is really really annoying! :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/5/2019 11:23 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> But the installers for drivers and the installer you want to use 
>>>> are not different. And what else does anyone have to go on but 
>>>> their experiences, and other people's experiences? I need to tap 
>>>> into that resource! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Bob S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 5, 2019, at 08:18 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>>>>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/5/2019 10:41 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>>>>> First, your assumption that "it's one everyone is experiencing for 
>>>>> any installer" is exactly that, an assumption based on your 
>>>>> experiences.
>>>>>
>>>>> The vast majority of our customers are computer novices and 
>>>>> anything but the simplest of steps can cause them problems. Most 
>>>>> do not know what version of macOS they run, nor how to tell what 
>>>>> version they are running.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, I was not calling for RunRev to "fix" this. It is clearly 
>>>>> Apple's inane drive for marketing a level or privacy and security 
>>>>> that is mostly a gigantic lie that is the cause.
>>>>>
>>>>> And thirdly, drivers are a bit different than research apps.
>>>>
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