mousemove doesn't recognize "shiftkey is down", but only under Windows

Mon Oct 1 18:04:51 EDT 2018

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Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:14 PM Howard Bornstein via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I'm only using Parallels, so I don't know the answer to that.
>
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:47 PM Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Does the same thing happen with VMware?
> >
> > not that I have any plans to develop anything in Windows.
> > --
> > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> > mixstream.org
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:16 PM Howard Bornstein via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I just wanted to mention that the problem detecting the shift-key being
> > > down seems to be entirely an issue with Parallels. My test, running
> under
> > > Windows 10 on a real PC had no trouble with my code that was looking
> for
> > > the shift-key being down. I'm glad to see this problem wasn't within
> > > LiveCode. There are so many layers where something can go wrong, it can
> > be
> > > a challenge identifying exactly where the problem is happening. It must
> > be
> > > a pretty specific issue with Parallels that only manifests by ignoring
> > the
> > > shift key.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:02 PM Howard Bornstein <
> > bornstein at designeq.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:50 PM Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
> > > > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Howard:
> > > >>
> > > >>  > All my test show that for the Shift key and the Option key, when
> > > >>  > called within a mousemove handler, it doesn't register that the
> > > >>  > keys are down unless the mouse button is clicked first.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Howard, I tested your code verbatim in the card script of a new
> > stack
> > > >> in LC 901 on native Windows 10 with a real PC laptop, Dell Intel i5.
> > > >>
> > > >> It works fine here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for testing this out.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I also noticed that since "shiftkey" only has two
> > > >> states, you don't really need to test it twice; you could cut out
> the
> > > >> second "if" statement. In fact, this yields similar results:
> > > >>
> > > >> on mousemove x,y
> > > >>   put x,y && the shiftkey
> > > >> end mousemove
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Lol. Yeah, I wasn't trying for elegance. I was making sure the code
> and
> > > > results were absolutely clear.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> So, despite the very significant issues that LC 9 has on real
> Windows,
> > > >> including a barely-usable script editor, it seems likely that this
> is
> > > >> not one of them. That's good news! But obviously you do have a
> > problem.
> > > >>
> > > >> Have you tested your code in a brand new empty stack in a fresh and
> > > >> unmodded instance of LC, no extra plugins or scripts running? If so,
> > if
> > > >> it's just Parallels, I have to say that virtual Windows isn't quite
> > the
> > > >> same. Well, I guess an Intel Mac sporting a GUI that contradicts
> much
> > of
> > > >> Apple's original research isn't quite the same either; I'm a big
> > > >> original Mac guy! :) But some details are different. That's why I
> > always
> > > >> use real Mac and real Windows.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I have friend with a real Windows machine that will test the code of
> > the
> > > > app where I applied this technique so, hopefully I'll be able to see
> if
> > > it
> > > > works on a real PC and if the problem is Parallels. I'm a Mac guy too
> > and
> > > > only use Windows to test apps built for both platforms.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> But if you get different results with a fresh stack and LC, if there
> > is
> > > >> something else going on and you would like me to test your actual
> > stack
> > > >> (on native Windows) or help solve your problem, feel free to contact
> > me
> > > >> off-list. Interesting.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks. I'll let you know what my friend turns up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> (Meanwhile, hope we can get improvements for some of the real
> Windows
> > > >> problems that LC has. It's difficult to type in the LC 901 script
> > editor
> > > >> on Windows - that is a pretty huge issue. I have a WordLib update
> > coming
> > > >> out in a few days, pending final tests, and it never hurts to have a
> > > >> fully usable version of the latest LC IDE on both platforms!)
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I did work a little bit in the script editor under Windows and didn't
> > > > notice the awful problems you've been reporting, but again, it was
> just
> > > > some tweaks and code changes. I don't do most of my scripting under
> > > > Windows. I hope this gets fixed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Best wishes,
> > > >>
> > > >> Curry Kenworthy
> > > >>
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> > > >>
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> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Howard Bornstein
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