[Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

Richmond Mathewson richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 10:59:42 EDT 2018

Here are some rude words and phrases that come pretty high on my sh*t 
list with reasons why:

1. EOL.  I use Bryce 7 for producing 3D models even thought it was "EOL" 
10 years ago (and ( was able to buy it for $10).
                I use LiveCode 7.1.4 on a regular basis as its interface 
is a lot less cluttered than the subsequent versions of LiveCode;
                and I like coloured icons.

2. Obsolete.

2.1.  Currently composing electronic music on a BBC Model B from 1981 
and saving the programs onto a cassette recorder.
2.2.  Running Hypercard and other PPC-only software on a G5 
polycarbonate iMac.
2.3.  Always check my Maths on a British Thornton Sliderule that Mum and 
Dad gave me for my 13th birthday in 1975.
2.4.  Have an iSight WebCam connected via the Firewire port on my 2006 
Intel polycarbonate imac as it is a lot more
          flexible than the rather silly built-in camera on the front of 
the iMac.
2.5.  Use Belkin Nostromo 50 and 52 gamepads as controller devices when 
programming with LiveCode.
2.6.  My EFL school uses a whole host of "obsolete" PCs to deliver 
content reinforcement software I have written with LiveCode
          via various versions of Xubuntu: the youngest machine is about 
12 years old.
2.7.  Use a pair of polycarbonate iMacs (2006) in my school to allow 
children to have fun remotely programming various floor robots
          via Bluetooth.
2.8.  Use a polycarbonate iMac (2006) (as does my wife) with a second 
monitor as my "main man" for almost everything.

2.9.  I use a hand-drill my great-aunt gave my grandfather as a present 
when he came back to Glasgow after the first World War
for all those needs for which a power drill is just a pain-in-the-bum 
and too much bother.

2.10.  I brush my hair every morning with a pair of hairbrushes my 
great-grandfather gave my grandfather on his 14th birthday (1911).

2.11.  My raincoat was something my Uncle picked up when he worked for 
Aquascutum in 1972.

2.12. I cut my bread with a knife made from part of the front wheel 
cover of a 1932 Fordson tractor made for
           me as a present by a farmer in Orkney in 1983.

3. Upgrade.

I am sure that about 90% of this is commercial push.

4. Update.

quod erat demonstrandum

4.1. Some pillock tried to tell me that Latin was obsolete the other day 
. . .

As far as I can see the ONLY reason to get hold of something new is if 
that new thing will allow you to a vast number of things
that the thing it is set to replace is unable to do.


On 11/7/2018 5:36 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
> Obsolete is a strong word. There are different levels. I had a friend who firmly held that Obsolete meant when something newer could replace a device. But it can be argued, and I take this position, that a computer device is obsolete when it no longer is capable of running current software. But a third level of Obsolecense can be concieved as when a device can no longer perform it's function for which it was obtained.
> Bob S
>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 21:18 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> Beyond that, given Apple's OS strategy which render usable hardware obsolete prematurely, if you want an OS that's safely maintained apparently their guidance is to stop using macOS and upgrade to Linux.
>> --
>> Richard Gaskin
>> Fourth World Systems
>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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