Dragging widgets

Richmond richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Wed Mar 1 16:58:11 CET 2017


I'm sorry if that is how you understood my posting.

What I meant was that many people don't really want to look "under the 
hood" of the illusion
created by the desktop manager and so forth, with its artifacts such as 
icons, folders and images,
to any of the abstraction layers underneath.

The WIMP GUI has, by and large, become the standard way people interact 
with computers,
and the family line that started with Hypercard was initially meant for 
standard people, not
for people who delighted in getting themselves smeared in oil and 
whatever from messing around
beneath the GUI.

LiveCode is "real", and part of its "reality" involves sustaining the 
illusion that one can program with
'objects', dragging them around, rotating them, flipping them, and 
spreading "jam" on them as if
they were slices of bread on a table rather than complicated congeries 
of numbers.

The messy way that one currently imports SVG images into LiveCode mucks 
up that illusion.

The fact that LiveCode can now import vector graphics is wonderful, and 
it was not that I wanted
to describe as "sucking". What sucks is that, owing to the way one has 
to import SVG graphics
the "standard" import model is broken, and it allows us to see some of 
the sub-GUI stuff.

Richmond.

On 01/03/17 17:42, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
> Read the post I was responding to. Richmond seemed to be making the point that the GUI of Livecode presented an illusion to the end user that they were working with a "real" app. As I said, I may have misconstrued his meaning, but that was what it seemed like he was saying.
>
> Bob S
>
>
>> On Mar 1, 2017, at 06:39 , David V Glasgow via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> So…. there is no spoon?
>>
>> Oh Wow!  Look at that!  My code (and this email) is writing itself when I just tilt my head and look meaningfully at the screen.
>>
>> Couldn’t resist.
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> David Glasgow
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