Code signing - not out of the wood yet: please help!

William Prothero waprothero at gmail.com
Tue Jan 17 16:55:06 EST 2017 

I “think” that once you get the certificate into keychain, you no longer need to worry about “keys”.
The main thing is to have, for standalones, one named: “Developer ID Application: xxxxxx” for the app. I think, if you have an installer and you sign it, it will use one named “Developer ID Installer: xxxxxxx”. 

Mine are also in the “login” section. I don’t know the whys and wherefor’s of that, but it works, so….. who am I to complain?
By the way, when I download the disc image, I still get a message cautioning me that the software was downloaded from the internet. But, no more scary “Unknown Developer” messages.

Best,
Bill

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Not quite out of the wood yet. I have actually generated the certificates, and got them into my KeyChain, but not exactly as I expected. I get this from the Apple Developer Portal:
> 
>> Download, Install and Backup
>> Download your certificate to your Mac, then double click the .cer file to install in Keychain Access. Make sure to save a backup copy of your private and public keys somewhere secure.
> 
> Double-clicking produced an incomprehensible error message to the effect that I was importing the certificates into the wrong place, so I followed a clue in the message and imported the certificates into the ‘login’ section - with no idea what that means. So far so good. I also copied the certificates to a safe place in cyberspace (there will also be automatic local backups). But what does the second sentence mean? Are the keys mentioned part of the certificate, and if they aren’t, how can I access them? Maybe the code signing process itself will solve this problem, but I would like to be clearer about where these keys are now.
> 
> [sigh…]
> 
> If anyone has time to explain, as ever I will be grateful.
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 17 Jan 2017, at 17:59, prothero--- via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Graham,
>> For me, one problem is that I use the signing and deployment system so seldom that I forget the idiosyncrasies when I delve back not the Apple Developer site. I then may duplicate certificates or provisioning profiles, and that confuses everything. One of the most useful buttons I clicked, on App Wrapper 3 (or was it Monte's stack) listed my certificates and warned me of duplicates. Them, when OS's get upgraded and Xcode versions change, it can get more of a mess. 
>> 
>> Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was a livecode stack that could examine your setup and figure all this out? I did get a lot of useful information from the log files in Monte's signing app, though.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero
>> http://es.earthednet.org
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill, thanks to you and to the ever-helpful Matthias. I have in fact got used to dropDMG, so I will probably stick to that. I do already have a link to the Trevor/Monte signing app, so it looks as if this is all coming together.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if we are in the minority in finding all this such a PITA. There are after all a lot of successful LiveCode developers, but these deployment issues don’t appear that often on this list. Yet I can’t believe that anyone could find this stuff straightforward when they first try it.
>>> 
>>> Onward!
>>> 
>>> Thanks again
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Jan 2017, at 17:16, prothero--- via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Graham,
>>>> I've had similar hair pulling experiences. Mathias' instructions are great initial steps. What you need to do after you get the developer certificate and get it into your keychain, is to actually do the signing. I've tried App Wrapper 3, which a lot of folks have used, but found that it somehow messed with reading files that I needed for my app, and once signed, wouldn't work. Rather that debug what was happening, I tried the livecode signing app distributed by Monte and/or Trevor. It worked like a charm. The last step was to make a disc image that could be downloaded from a web site. I tried (not exactly sure of the precise names) dropDMG and DMGcanvas. I found DMG canvas to be the easiest to use.
>>>> 
>>>> That's it. You might search the list emails to find the link to download the signing stack. I am not on my work computer now, but will post it if you can't find it.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>> William Prothero
>>>> http://es.earthednet.org
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 3:50 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham,
>>>>> 
>>>>> - in your developer account select “Mac OS X” in the dropdown menu on the left side above the word “Certificates”
>>>>> - then click “All” under “Certifcates” on the left side
>>>>> - click the “+” sign on the right side  (near the loupe)
>>>>> - in the next page select “Developer ID”  near the bottom
>>>>> - click “continue”
>>>>> - on the next page select either “Developer ID Application” or “Developer ID Installer”
>>>>> - on the next page read the instructions how to create the Creator Signing Request 
>>>>> or click continue right away if you have already created that file
>>>>> - on the next page you are able to upload your file
>>>>> - press continue
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your certificate should be created.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just ran through it just to write  this description, but cannot go further because i have all my certificates already.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So maybe you have to click some mor “continue” buttons. I am not sure. But at least now you know where to upload that file.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Am 17.01.2017 um 12:21 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Having more or less sorted code signing for a Windows app - thanks to contributors to this list - I am now trying to do the same for the Mac, but I have clearly missed some massive chunk of the work flow.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m a registered developer. I want to distribute my apps outside of the Apple App Store. I realise that I have to generate a Certificate Signing Request (actually two, one for the app itself and one for its installer): I have done this, but now I am stuck. It says in the very convoluted Apple documentation (convoluted if you’re not going down the XCode/Apple Store path):
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Upload the certificate request to the certificate authority (for example, to Apple using the developer portal, as part of the certificate generation flow).
>>>>>> I cannot see a way to do this in the Developer Portal. Obviously thousands of people have done it, but I just can’t see how.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TIA for any nice clear simple explanation!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m even more in need of a LiveCode app deployment guide than ever…
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