OK, the list *really* needs to be fixed

[J. Landman Gay]

I assumed Gmail is bouncing emails because the error mailman returns to the 
list member is "too many bounces". It could be something else though. 
Apparently it doesn't happen to all Gmail users, only some, and if I 
remember right, some AOL and Yahoo addresses do the same thing.

It might be useful for an affected member to ask Google support if they 
know why it happens.

Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jacque at hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software           |     http://www.hyperactivesw.com



On December 31, 2016 6:26:47 PM Mike Kerner <MikeKerner at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Is gmail actually bouncing them?  I thought that everything suspicious
> ended up in the spam folder.
>
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 5:54 PM, J. Landman Gay <jacque at hyperactivesw.com>
> wrote:
>
>> No, not entirely sure, but I've read about it before. Google changes its
>> algorithms and spam filters frequently, so it's possible they've tweaked it
>> again.
>>
>> Here's one article I found:
>> <http://robbat2.livejournal.com/241253.html>
>>
>> If you google "gmail bounces mailman emails" there are thousands of hits,
>> some of which are more relevant than others.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/31/16 3:20 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:
>>
>>> are we sure that is the reason?  This problem is recent.  I've been a
>>> member of the list with the same gmail address since 2005 without having
>>> these issues.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Richmond Mathewson <
>>> richmondmathewson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Doesn't say much for Google.
>>>>
>>>> Richmond.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/31/16 9:53 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/31/16 2:16 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Really: only 4?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a bit farcical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richmond.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/31/16 12:48 am, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is about the fourth time I've been unsubscribed in the last few
>>>>>>> months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far, at least in this round, the people who have been dropped are
>>>>> using gmail addresses. I've read about issues with gmail before. If
>>>>> there
>>>>> is a way to whitelist the LiveCode list, that could help. Since the
>>>>> drops
>>>>> are caused by the refusal of the receiving domain, I don't think there
>>>>> is
>>>>> much that LiveCode can do. The list is being sent and actively rejected
>>>>> by
>>>>> Google filters.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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