Hackintosh

Wed Aug 2 16:52:23 EDT 2017

Dear Mark,

" At the end of the day, unless you believe in anarchy (which you might, I
have no issue with that - particularly if you can explain to me how that
works in practice ;)), some observance of rules is required - and there is a
difference between discussing the rules (e.g. the meta level) which can be
most enlightening; and the discussing of how to break them (which often gets
quite boring in any specific case after a while - especially as plenty of
other people have discussed them at length and in detail elsewhere) ;)"

Mark, It works in practice, please read:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPojltjv4M0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPojltjv4M0

Off topic but to me of interest.

All the best,
Erik

-----Original Message-----
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
Cc: Mark Waddingham <mark at livecode.com>
Subject: Re: Hackintosh

Whilst that may be true - a significant part of LiveCode's business comes
from the US... As does our support for Apple devices.

Of course, Apple probably don't care (why would they? Hackintoshes are not
Macs). However, Apple did think it reasonable to outlaw anything other than
Obj-C and JS (through the WebView) apps on iOS for a while. So let's not
presume we can 'read' intent of such 'powerful' entities.

As I said there are other forums for discussing hackintosh creation - it is
definitely off topic for this forum; so beyond a few links of elsewhere to
look (which our helpful users have already supplied) I think this discussion
has probably done all it needs to, hasn't it?

At the end of the day, unless you believe in anarchy (which you might, I
have no issue with that - particularly if you can explain to me how that
works in practice ;)), some observance of rules is required - and there is a
difference between discussing the rules (e.g. the meta level) which can be
most enlightening; and the discussing of how to break them (which often gets
quite boring in any specific case after a while - especially as plenty of
other people have discussed them at length and in detail elsewhere) ;)

Caution is sometimes the greatest approach anyone can take, if you actually
want to effect change.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Aug 2017, at 22:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
<use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Apple's EULA may not actually be legal or legally enforcable in a 
> large number of territories where this Use-List is read.
> 
> Just seen Tim Cook "sucking the kneecaps" of China's one-party state's
leaders and blethering anent "adhering to the law" re VPNs.
> Nothing makes me despise anyone more than trying to justify adherence to
laws of a totalitarian state.
> 
> Sometimes the law is an ass; as has been demonstrated by sensible lawyers
time out of mind.
> 
> This kind of reaction makes me want to scream "Richard Stallman" in a very
trenchant tones.
> 
> I also don't see how discussing how one might go about something has 
> to be seen as a demonstration of an intention to carry out those actions .
. .
> 
> . . . but then I don't live in a paranoid police state (Bulgaria had a 
> patch of that and gave it up, just as some, previously open, states
started on an opposite journey).
> 
> Of course in "parts west" they don't even need the full apparatus of a 
> police-state any more as they have, through political correctness  
> effectively erected what Mao Zedong ( a well-known advocate of democracy)
termed "a dictatorship of the proletariat" where the people police
themselves.
> 
> Anyway we don't need to worry about that when we have our own folk
attempting to impose censorship nearer to home.
> 
> I have come up against this attitude in several places recently, the 
> idea that a place is "safe and friendly" only when we are not allowed to
express certain opinions.
> 
> That is the beginning of the end of proper, robust discussion and healthy
creativity.
> 
> Richmond.
> 
>> On 8/2/17 6:56 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
>> We have a great community, having earned a reputation for providing a
safe, friendly environment for learning LiveCode.
>> 
>> With that in mind, please remember that Apple's EULA for macOS requires
that it be run only on "Apple-branded computers".
>> 
>> Discussions of using VMs on Mac hosts is great, useful for testing our
apps on multiple OS versions.
>> 
>> But we probably don't want to have discussions of violating Apple's
copyright as part of this community's permanent public archive.
>> 
>> There are other venues where such discussion can take place.  Here in
this official LiveCode support venue, it may be better to follow the
guidelines used for the Forums, in which we avoid discussions which may be
construed as encouraging illegal activity.
>> 
>> Forum Guidelines
>> <http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18885>
>> 
>> --
>> Richard Gaskin
>> LiveCode Community Liaison
>> richard at livecode.org
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