Moving Groups Bug

Mike Kerner MikeKerner at
Sat Nov 12 14:13:59 EST 2016

I've run into a number of issues in 8 with groups, especially datagrids.
1. The PB and groups do not coexist well, yet, and that includes when
editing a group, relayering a group, and editing a group.  My advice is do
not use the PB when working with a group.
2. LC recycles group properties, and sometimes assigns them when new groups
are created (depending on a couple of factors)

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 1:52 AM, J. Landman Gay <jacque at>

> Were you using the Project Browser? I thought I'd try it because the app
> browser doesn't offer drag-relayering, but the same thing happened to me
> when I dragged a control upwards. It popped into the group above it in the
> list.
> On 11/11/16 10:09 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> Nope it's false. Just checked.
>> Bob S
>> On Nov 11, 2016, at 18:39 , Phil Davis <revdev at> wrote:
>>> Sounds to me like 'relayerGroupedControls' may have been set to true?
>>> Otherwise I can't imagine it would be swallowed whole by the next
>>> lower-layer group.
>>> Phil Davis
>>> On 11/11/16 6:18 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>>>> Not sure if this is a bug actually. I recently selected a data grid and
>>>> moved it back one level, and it disappeared! Select Grouped was off. I
>>>> discovered my errant datagrid had been added to the group one level back,
>>>> and because the boundaries of that group did not encompass the data grid,
>>>> and the size and position were locked, it "appeared to disappear".
>>>> Is this what is supposed to happen?? If so, then BOOOO!!! It's my
>>>> humble opinion that nothing should be added to a group unless I explicitly
>>>> tell it to be. Moving an object backwards and forwards should only happen
>>>> within the group the object is in, or else outside of any group.
>>>> What think ye?
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