short name broken?

Monte Goulding monte at
Tue Nov 1 20:37:29 CET 2016

Hi Richard

When I was working on lcVCS we discussed this on the engine forums and agreed that the properties -> “name” should be empty instead of this abbreviated id. So you can use that to work out if there’s no name. I’m still not sure why it’s helpful for the short name to be returned as an abbreviated id instead of empty apart from in the IDE but that is so easy to script it would seem to be a non-issue...


> On 2 Nov. 2016, at 2:15 am, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at> wrote:
> In v9 try:
> 1. Create a new field
> 2. In the Message Box, run:
>  put the short name of last field
> I get the name instead, e.g. "field id 1009".
> IIRC the short name of a field is empty until you set it.  When a field is unnamed, "the short name" returns empty and "the name" would return the form shown above, yes?
> Otherwise, we have no way to know when a field has not yet been named.
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> Richard Gaskin
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