Standalones on el Capitan?

Erik Beugelaar ebeugelaar at
Sun May 1 04:45:34 EDT 2016

I have a feeling that this thread will end up in a very long one again...

The only point I will make is the fact to deploy only on IOS then $999 is a
lot for the so called "Hobby brigade" or the "Poor boys".

A lot about this issue has already been said on


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Subject: Re: Standalones on el Capitan?

Please do not mention my roof: I was up there after a few really violent
April showers messing around with a blow torch on the tar-paper - and I'm
scared of heights.

Nobody is going to spin me the vast amount required to RENT Livecode

AND I really DON'T want to RENT anything: I want to buy a commercial version
that will stand me in as good stead as LC 4.5 IS still doing.

So, let's turn this from a discussion about Richmond's roof to one about how
the Livecode folk imagine they are going to get the "Hobby brigade" 
and the "Poor boys"
to buy/rent any type of Livecode other than the Free version at the current
prices they are asking . . . .

Let's also have a "chew" about rental versus ownership.

There have been some rumblings, but I don't think this has ever been really
addressed fully.

I wonder if by doing 2 things almost at the same time:

1. Producing an Open Source, Free version.

2. Hiking the price of the commercial version sky-high.

Livecode won't end up doing something which they probably did not intend.

I thought (and, hey, I've been wrong many times) that they general idea was
that developers who might want to protect code developed using the Free
version might be prepared to buy/rent the protected version.

However, a very large number of developers may not be pulling in the money
at a sufficient rate for the to feel comfortable to shell out the high price
of a commercial version.

This argument begins to resemble the one I banged on about for ages in the
DreamCard days . . .


On 1.05.2016 06:09, Kay C Lan wrote:
> As Richard and Paul have said plus, you've got more to worry about 
> than just converting numToChar to numToCodePoint as per your other post.
> Just minutes ago I received a quote of the day email from my uncle 
> that
> said:
> Fix the roof whilst the sun is shining.
> So to rephrase Richard and Paul: 4.5's sunny days are well and truly 
> over, the storm clouds are brewing, the barometric pressure continues 
> to fall and it's already started drizzling! It's your choice as to 
> when you fix the roof.
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