alex at tweedly.net
Tue Jan 12 12:47:15 EST 2016
Thanks Bob. I was not expecting quick replies to my question - I know
it's a tough, and potentially wide, area to address.
Thanks for the pointers to those apps - I looked closely at QuickInfo
and more briefly at the other.
My first comment is that I guess I'm not ready to give up on LC yet :-(
In some ways, the WebApp approach is at one end of the spectrum of
responses to my question: i.e. provide essentially a single UI for all
platforms. Of course, it can and should be responsive to screen size,
layout, aspect ratio, etc. - but it basically makes *an* app which has
its own look/feel, rather than try to appear like a native app on each
Also, of course, it provides two large advantages :
- sidesteps the hurdle of getting into the AppStore (and setting up
correct SDK, Xcode, yada, yada, yada, ...)
- gives an immediate solution to the Dropbox issue.
I'm sure that before too long we'll have a usable Dropbox library (i.e.
with an OAuth component that imho is needed to make it usable for most
use cases), so I'm happy to deal with some short-term work-around for
data sharing (which isn't too hard for my single app). (btw - yes, I did
look at OAuth with a view to whether or not I could write such a
library, and decided it was beyond my ability/effort level in an area I
just don't understand).
The app store issue - well, I have only the anecdotal evidence from the
uselist, which suggests it is frustrating, but that as long as you have
a reasonable approach to UI, you have some freedom to adopt either a
very iOS-centric approach, or something "quite different but
consistent". (see more of my views on that topic in my reply to
On 12/01/2016 14:34, Bob Warren wrote:
> Hi Alex,
> The lack of response to your question shows, I think, that
> multi-platform apps in LiveCode, for both desktop and mobile, are
> really hard to achieve. I would love to be able to do this in LC
> because I love the language, but the only practical way I have found
> so far is to write browser apps in JQuery.
> If you think it would be of any use at all, visit the main page of
> www.howsoft.com and click on the "Universal Apps" icon. The extensive
> Helps to the 2 apps in this series will give you a good idea of how
> they are written. You will see that data is exchanged among platforms
> by the use of DROPBOX.
> Bob Warren
> Alex Tweedly wrote:
> I'm considering developing a multi-platform app; i.e. ont where the same
> app runs on both "desktop" and mobile.
> On the 'desktop' platforms it will use 'standard' menus, and that will
> be the main "command" access (along with an optional toolbar, most
> likely, but the toolbar will give access to a limited number of most
> often used commands/features, rather than to "everything).
> But, on mobile, there are no "standard menus", and although they are
> appearing on a few apps (as homegrown menus), they aren't the usual
> convention on mobile devices. So, I will have a combination of icons,
> buttons, etc. on the mobile platforms.
> I suspect that means I'm in the same boat as many other people have
> already been in, and I'd like to benefit from your experience.
> If you have developed an app running on both desktop and mobile:
> 1. did you follow this same split on how your main command structure was
> invoked ?
> 2. how did you manage this ?
> a. really one app with per-platform customization
> b. two (or more) apps with as large a percentage as possible put
> into library stacks (or similar) as possible, with separate menu-based
> vs button-based apps.
> c. something else that you could readily explain
> Many thanks
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