TS Net for Indy vs Business

Skip Kimpel skiplondon at gmail.com
Fri Dec 30 07:41:14 EST 2016


+1

LC needs to reconsider breaking up functionality based upon licensing.

SKIP

> On Dec 30, 2016, at 6:40 AM, Roger Eller <roger.e.eller at sealedair.com> wrote:
> 
> I am really disappointed that SFTP (for Indy) is limited to a variable
> (RAM) -vs- writing directly to a file.  Moving large files that exceed
> system RAM is very common.
> 
> ~Roger
> 
> On Dec 30, 2016 5:13 AM, "Charles Warwick" <charles at techstrategies.com.au>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andre,
>> 
>> I will be adding a fair amount of documentation for tsNet over the coming
>> weeks that I hope will better answer a number of the questions that are
>> being asked on the list.
>> 
>> In the mean time, I hope that the following two points will explain what
>> is happening for you.
>> 
>> 
>> 1.  For Indy users, SFTP and SMTP can only be performed in "blocking"
>> operations.
>> 
>> This means if you call any of the non-blocking variants of the libUrl or
>> tsNet commands/functions with these protocols, you will get an error.
>> 
>> For libUrl commands, non-blocking commands are:
>> 
>> "load url", "libUrlDownloadToFile", "libUrlFtpUpload",
>> "libUrlFtpUploadFile"
>> 
>> For tsNet commands, non-blocking functions are:
>> 
>> "tsNetGet", "tsNetGetFile", "tsNetUpload", "tsNetUploadFile", "tsNetSmtp",
>> "tsNetSmtpFile", "tsNetSendCmd", "tsNetPost", "tsNetHead", "tsNetCustom"
>> 
>> 
>> 2.  For Indy users, SFTP and SMTP can only be performed to/from a variable
>> - not directly using a file.
>> 
>> This means you will also get an error if you use any of the blocking
>> functions which directly reference a file when using these protocols.
>> 
>> For tsNet, these functions are:
>> 
>> "tsNetGetFileSync", "tsNetUploadFileSync", "tsNetSmtpFileSync"
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28/12/2016 5:31 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey,
>>> 
>>> Yes, we found that page as well. The problem is that even though the page
>>> lists features available to each license, there is no list of commands and
>>> functions per license. For example, it says that public key authentication
>>> is only available to business license holders, so we'd assume that if we
>>> call tsNetUploadFileSync passing a username and password as an SFTP URL,
>>> should work but it doesn't. Then we'd look into the docs and see that we
>>> can pass a settings array with username and password which also doesn't
>>> work.
>>> 
>>> When I say "doesn't work", I don't mean it is buggy, I mean it returns an
>>> error saying the external is unlicensed. Which will probably make me
>>> fallback to using shell commands to scp/sftp/rsync or whatever I need to
>>> make file transfers.
>>> 
>>> This "escalation of features" for file transfers based on your license for
>>> me is cumbersome as I am more prone to use other solutions than stay
>>> inside
>>> LC but this is a whole different thread.
>>> 
>>> What I think would be useful and not disruptive to HQ business model is
>>> more info about this license limitations inside the LC dictionary. When
>>> you
>>> look at a given entry there, you don't see this info.
>>> 
>>> om om
>>> andre
>>> PS: It has been a while hasn't it?
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:32 AM, Richard Gaskin <
>>> ambassador at fourthworld.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We need some help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We know that we can do SFTP with TS-Net external
>>>>> 
>>>>> but
>>>>> 
>>>>> functions that we try to use from an Indy LC return "unlicensed" even
>>>>> when, the documentation make not indication that they should fail
>>>>> without the business license.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What we need is
>>>>> 
>>>>> Documention on what functions and methods work for SFTP in Indy.
>>>>> 
>>>> There's probably a more intuitive taxonomic placement for this (though
>>>> admittedly I can't decide on one offhand - suggestions?), but I poked
>>>> around the livecode.com site and discovered that if I click "Pricing"
>>>> then about the middle of the price comparison page is a link labeled
>>>> "Compare Networking Fearures", which leads to this page that offers a
>>>> breakdown by edition:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/livecode-
>>>> networking-layer/>
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>>  Richard Gaskin
>>>>  Fourth World Systems
>>>>  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>>>>  ____________________________________________________________________
>>>>  Ambassador at FourthWorld.com                http://www.FourthWorld.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
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