LC 8 Property Inspector

[Peter Haworth]

Hi Ali,
Would be great if you get flexible groupings going.  Having been through
implementing this, one thing to watch out for is that there isn't a way to
get a complete list of properties for a particular object type.

The properties array of an object does not include properties which can be
derived from other properties.  That change was made a few releases back
and no method of invoking the prior behavior (perhaps "the effective
properties") was provided.

Also, the propertynames list is missing some entries and includes some
entries that seem more like keywords than properties, e.g. "abbrev".

Hopefully, as a team member you may have access to other resources to get a
complete list,

Pete
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Ali Lloyd <ali.lloyd at livecode.com> wrote:

> OK, the palette header actually doesn't currently have the option to
> display both icons and labels, so I might rectify that tomorrow.
>
> For now, here's a pull request adding the display preference between icons
> and labels.
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pull/564
>
> The way we have written the property inspector, it will be very easy to
> specify where you want particular properties to appear. We intended to add
> grouping/folding/customization of this type straight away, but I guess it's
> probably better to get the basics working first.
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:20 PM Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Peter Haworth wrote:
> >
> >  > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> >  >> Here's an implementation I've been using whenever I need things
> >  >> not found in any Inspector:
> >  >> <http://fourthworld.net/revnet/devolution/4W_Props.rev.gz>
> >  >>
> >  >> The design is largely functional, but suboptimal. Time permitting it
> >  >> would group related properties together under collapsible headers.
> >  >
> >  > Completeness is indeed important, especially to newcomers as you
> >  > point out.
> >  > There are some strange omissions from the pre-8 PI, e.g. it doesn't
> >  > have a place to specify a behavior for an option menu which, when I
> >  > first started using LC, led me to believe option menus couldn't have
> >  > behaviors for some reason.  I see that's been corrected in v8.
> >  >
> >  > However, once you're past the newcomer stage, showing every possible
> >  > property is probably something you don't want, which brings me to
> >  > the issue of layout flexibility, the ability to organize properties
> >  > together in a way that makes sense for each individual user.
> >
> > The collapsible headers I referred to is the enhancement a good Property
> > Sheet should have to allow users to find properties easily.
> >
> > Logical groupings allow you to work with just color props, or
> > size/location props, etc. as needed, and likely only crazy people like
> > me would expand all of them at once in an alphabetic list like the one
> > I'd built to see them all at once.
> >
> > Ken Ray and I discussed having one of the theoretical collapsible
> > headers being Favorites, so anyone who finds themselves using a certain
> > subset of props frequently can include them there while still keeping
> > the logical groupings it would ship with by default.
> >
> > The real value of the Prop Sheet implementation I shared isn't that it's
> > complete in that way, but merely that all of its prop labels and values
> > use only one field to display them.  Super easy to build and maintain,
> > and efficient to work with.
> >
> > --
> >   Richard Gaskin
> >   Fourth World Systems
> >   Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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