Printing in LC 7.0.3

Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com
Thu Mar 5 18:12:05 EST 2015


Terence Heaford wrote:

 > On 5 Mar 2015, at 15:47, Richard Gaskin wrote:
 >>Terence Heaford wrote:
...
 >>> I’ve never had a reported bug resolved.
 >>
 >> ..except for this one:
 >> <http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12961>
 >> ..except for this one:
 >
 > I would submit a bug report for the Text Labels of tabs debacle
 > in the Tab Panel if I thought it would do any good?
 >
 > I believe the bug report for this was started years ago and
 > replicated on a number of occasions and has still not been resolved.
 >
 > Richard, while you have got your ambassador hat on perhaps you could
 > advise when it will be sorted out.

Of the four reports I could find that you've submitted only one is 
outstanding, and the others either fixed by RunRev or abandoned by 
yourself, as you noted in your follow-up posts here.

Those of us who rely on LiveCode for our work participate in the QA 
process because it's in our own interest to do so.

For those interested in this text alignment issue in tab controls on OS 
X, here are the two relevant bug reports:

Bug 6206 - Tab Panels in Mac OS X have incorrect default text vertical 
position
<http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6206>

Bug 7962 - Tabs not centered horizontally in tab button
<http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7962>


With an audience as large as LiveCode's for a scope of OS coverage few 
companies have ever attempted, a bug DB can grow into an almost 
unmanageable beast over time, with a great many older issues either no 
longer relevant because of changes in the OSes, or sometimes because 
changes in LiveCode has already addressed the issue.

Trimming the bug DB has been a huge effort over 2014 and continues to 
this day.

Newly-submitted bugs are usually confirmed within a day or two at most, 
sometimes within hours, as Paul Hibbert noted with his report this 
afternoon.

Older issues have been worked through with two large-scope initiatives 
last year:

- Nearly 2,000 outstanding bugs and feature requests were completed, 
closed as "Fixed".  Not a small effort.

- The remaining items were less clear to the team in terms of their 
relevance and/or quality of the submitted recipes, so in October Ben 
took the initiative to send everyone who had outstanding bug reports in 
the DB a list of those reports with a request that we please review them 
in the most recent build of LC, and note whether the issue remains or 
should be closed.


In the period between Ben's emails to bug submitters and now, Apple's 
changes to their iOS APIs (mostly the 64-bit requirement but others as 
well) required urgent focus to deliver an update for iOS ASAP.  This was 
done, but it was a non-trivial task, and no doubt distracted them from 
things like the two reports noted above.

Please note that I tested the reports on text alignment in tab controls 
in OS X and noted that in one them on March 1.

Perhaps I could have tested it sooner, but to be honest this cosmetic 
issue may be important for some but it hasn't stopped me from delivering 
anything I need to deliver for my clients and customers, and not a 
single one of them has ever mentioned it to me.


Many such cosmetic issues have been slated to be addressed with the 
Themes architecture, noted on the Roadmap as dependent on the Open 
Language and accompanying Widgets architecture, which is in development 
now with the aim of delivering the first v8 DP very soon.

That said, I've raised this cosmetic tab control issue with the team 
this afternoon to see if a simple fix can be put into place before v8 
goes final.  I'll report back what I learn.


 > ...and please don’t suggest I script my own solution.

A half-dozen of us have been suggesting Bernd's wonderful field object. 
  He already did the work on that.  Have you considered trying it?

-- 
  Richard Gaskin
  Fourth World Systems
  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
  ____________________________________________________________________
  Ambassador at FourthWorld.com                http://www.FourthWorld.com




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