LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

Mike Bonner bonnmike at gmail.com
Thu Jun 4 21:37:14 CEST 2015


If things are packaged properly, and lc is added to repositories to use
native installers (synaptic, rpm, yum, whatever..) dependencies fulfillment
should be part of the process.  Of course this means more manhours getting
things set up to be packaged, and I don't think the mothership has many
free man hours floating around.
There are already dependencies required for lc to run properly on linux,
and some optional ones (to support elevated processes), so expecting the
right "stuff" to be installed isn't that far out of the ordinary for linux.
The key would (again) be to have things packaged so that the dependencies
are installed as part of the processes, making it as easy as possible.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 04/06/15 21:39, Mark Talluto wrote:
>
>> On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  In fact, if I had basic playback with startTime for Windows and Linux as
>>> we have for OS X, I'd never need that fancy widget at all.
>>>
>> It seems to me that Apple Devs were simply lucky with this one. When
>> LiveCode was forced to move to Cocoa, AVFoundation came with, almost for
>> free. We develop primarily for Mac/Win and need feature parity on both
>> platforms. I can very much appreciate the need to bring Linux up to speed.
>>
>> Native playback on all platforms would be fantastic. My guess is that Mac
>> and Win are going to be easier due to both OS having the blocks to play
>> with. Linux on the other hand, to its benefit and detriment, does not have
>> this for media. My last look at all of this left me very uncomfortable with
>> how a solution for Linux will come about. MPlayer looked good, but
>> licensing issues seemed to plague it. Which media layer can LiveCode rely
>> on for Linux? Will the layer be installed by default on all Linux boxes?
>>
>
> Isn't that rather like expecting Quicktime to be installed on all Windows
> and Mac boxes?
>
> The Linux world being what it is, a bit like Hercules' Hydra without the
> poison, is going to make any Video-Player based on something that lies
> outwith the LiveCode engine itself a tough call.
>
> It is also very hard indeed to see how RunRev will be able to claim that
> any video-player and its commands and functionality is truly
> cross-platform if it isn't some internal feature of the engine.
>
> Richmond.
>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Mark Talluto
>> livecloud.io
>> canelasoftware.com
>>
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