New Indy License Pricing

Andrew Kluthe andrew at ctech.me
Tue Jul 21 13:22:26 EDT 2015


Just read through some of the forum threads.

Price Increase? No big deal.
Commercial vs Open Source Feature Parity? Could also be no big deal if done
with some good intentions.
Only Subscription licensing? No big deal, helps keep costs down for us to
stay bleeding edge and helps stabilize the income runrev can count on.

But all three of these together? It's kind of obvious why people are
complaining/suspicious of the long term intentions here.

The issue is trust. In trusting runrev to know how to walk the fine line
with the commercial features/licensing, not any of the issues individually.
Not everyone is just going to take them for their word with this stuff
anymore.

Without that trust all of these things look very suspicious.

"We're gonna do all these things to get to what we promised, but after that
..." after that, what?

You take livecode open source to get funding to redesign it, release the
completed redesign as open source and after some time completely focus
future development efforts on commercial? Is that the after? It seems like
that's what the mother ship was saying on those threads.

"No, that's not what we want to do. We are committed to being Open Source."

Until you hit another funding wall and then those wants becomes have to's?

Sure, it's a slippery slope fallacy, but the ground we've just traveled on
from April 2013 didn't feel real solid.






On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:16 AM Chris Sheffield <cs_livecode at icloud.com>
wrote:

> There are two other limitations to be aware of, if I understand the terms
> correctly:  1) Your company/organization cannot have more than 5 employees
> total, and 2) cannot make more than $500,000 per year.
>
> > On Jul 21, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Earthednet-wp <prothero at earthednet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> > I subscribed to the Indy license with the understanding that it is the
> same as a commercial license, but for only a single developer.
> >
> > Hope I'm right.
> > Bill
> >
> > William Prothero
> > http://es.earthednet.org
> >
> >> On Jul 21, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Bob Sneidar <bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pardon my being late to the party, but I went to the web page and read
> up, but I still do not know what the “Indy” version is. I don’t want to
> miss the pricing deadline, but I also don’t want to subscribe to something
> then find out it is less than I wanted.
> >>
> >> Bob S
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 1, 2015, at 15:50 , Mark Wieder <mwieder at ahsoftware.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Peter Haworth <pete at ...> writes:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm assuming some folks out there got the same email as me regarding
> the
> >>>> increase in Indy license pricing.
> >>>>
> >>>> From that email, it seems that the Community Edition will no longer
> have
> >>>> all the same features as the fee-based versions of Livecode.
> >>>>
> >>>> Comments?
> >>>
> >>> Been dealt with very nicely by Kevin:
> >>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=24729&start=15
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Mark Wieder
> >>> ahsoftware at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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