Release 6.7.6 / 7.0.6
richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Mon Jul 6 20:31:57 CEST 2015
On 06/07/15 20:11, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> Richmond wrote:
> > On 05/07/15 20:18, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> >> I believe both the RQCC being down and the bug itself may be related
> >> to the recent DDoS attack. I'm unable to reproduce this issue this
> >> morning under Ubuntu 14.10. I would try again while the servers
> >> appear to be working well.
> > This is a load of nonsense: see my new notes over at the bug report.
> > Richmond.
> I was volunteering time away from business and personal things on a
> holiday weekend to try to help you, and that's how you respond?
I'm sorry: all sorts of things were happening at once.
AS I had tried starting 6.7.6 up while my machine was disconnected from
the internet it obviously had nothing at all to do with DDoS attacks.
Now, at work today I installed 6.7.6 on 3 machines which are never
connected to the internet [they had their Xubuntu 14.04 systems installed
from one of those DVDs one can use so one doesn't need internet access.
A very similar situation.
> Maybe your keyboard got stuck when you were trying to type "Thanks for
> trying, but that doesn't resolve the issue."
No, my keyboard did not get stuck; I was in a filthy mood for all sorts
of reasons, 6.7.6 being just one of them, and as I was installing it
from an installer I had downloaded rather than using LiveCode's in-built
upgrader the stuff about DDoS was 'nonsense', like it or not.
> My suggestion was based on the following:
> - The LiveCode servers had been under periodic DDoS attacks over the
> previous few days.
> - The LiveCode IDE makes some calls to their servers to verify accounts
> for opt-in features like the Dictionary comments and RevOnline.
Not if it is installed on a machine that has NO internet access.
I, successfully, installed 7.0.6 on several of my never-had-internet
machines at school today.
> - I was unable to reproduce the problem you'd reported on Xubuntu while
> I was running Ubuntu and Lubuntu, which are similar enough to Xubuntu
> be relevant here.
> - You noted LiveCode was able to run but stopped at a point well after
> engine initialization, suggesting something script-related rather than
> compatibility of the engine with your OS config.
> - The DDoS attacks had stopped at the time I was unable to reproduce
> the issue.
> - My reply here was before you'd posted your follow-up to that report.
> Given all this, although apparently I didn't guess correctly it wasn't
> a bad first stab at a diagnosis.
> I did read the comment there you'd posted later, and by now I trust
> you've also read Hanson's:
> that is odd. We test all the installers for installation and
> execution before they get shipped. I also just tested the
> installation again, just in case we had missed something, but
> it installs just fine for "You only" on a non-root account.
> As Richard suggests, have you been able to install other versions
> of LiveCode on the machine you are trying to install 6.7.6?
> The report is currently marked "Pending Awaiting Follow-Up", and with
> any luck as you provide the information the team needs to reproduce
> this they'll be able to find a solution for you.
> In the meantime, when someone goes out of their way to try to help you
> and you don't understand their methods, what you have is a question,
> not a reason to dismiss their help as "nonsense".
I would not have dismissed something as nonsense had I been able to see
some sense in it.
As very many people have used far stronger language at me in the past,
I, personally would never be offended by 'nonsense';
water off a duck's back!
I DO appreciate ALL that you do for LiveCode, unremunerated. And I, from
time-to-time do a bit as well: some of which
has been rubbished in far stronger terms that 'nonsense' - and I am
sufficiently thick-skinned that that does not fuss me.
So, while I am sorry that I miffed you, I do stand by my assessment of
DDoS as the possible cause of this problem.
Best [really!], Richmond.
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